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MAY 9, 2023 CHARLIE MINATO 

Data from the European Cigar Manufacturers Association (ECMA) shows a nearly 30 percent increase in the imports of cigars and cigarillos to European Union countries.

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Given the quality of NC of late, I agree, Cuba may have overplayed its hands.  Should be an interesting few years, especially if the "only-cuban" crowd finally come around.

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Under their new model.....they don't care. In fact, being a little niche suits them better. Does Rolex/PP care where they stand in numbers? They sell out. 

HSA no longer want to know 50% of us. 

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3 hours ago, El Presidente said:

HSA no longer want to know 50% of us. 

It's a shame

 

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I think this is due to the lack of availability of CC in EU and not the price increase. so of course people will look for alternatives. the issue is once many people become hooked to NC it might be difficult for Habanos to gain back their market share. 

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“Buy one box of RASS and 2x value in NC garbage is the new “buy one rass and two quinteros” so not surprised this is the case. 

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4 hours ago, Ryan said:

Probably half of the Spanish estancos that have a cigar humidor, who used to have Habanos cigars and cigar-accessories in the shop window, now they have IQOS branding in the window.

Easier to find & buy weed than Habanos in Spain today.

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12 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Under their new model.....they don't care. In fact, being a little niche suits them better. Does Rolex/PP care where they stand in numbers? They sell out. 

HSA no longer want to know 50% of us. 

Rolex apparently does care, as they are investing a boatload of cash to build another factory to increase production numbers. The bad optics of having empty shelves in Rolex dealers world wide is not acceptable for one of the most valuable brands on the planet. Habanos can't match what Rolex is doing, as they are too dysfunctional, and the whole Cuban cigar infrastructure is broken. The whole switch to "luxury" status, and ridiculous pricing are just survival mechanisms for Habanos. Nothing more than smoke and mirrors to conceal a broken industry/economy/country. And record low production numbers.

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4 hours ago, SCgarman said:

 The bad optics of having empty shelves in Rolex dealers world wide is not acceptable for one of the most valuable brands on the planet. Habanos can't match what Rolex is doing, as they are too dysfunctional, 

There is a balance required. However without a level of scarcity, you don't make the cut as a "luxury" product. 

The most powerful word in luxury marketing is "NO". 

  • No, there is a wait list. 
  • No, you can't afford it. 
  • No, you don't qualify. 

 

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