Weight discrepancies - acceptable variance or inconsistency?

[TacoSauce]

24 minutes ago, GVan said:

One last thing, plugged cigars for me always go back to the humidor with a note not to touch it for ~ 3 years.  I've found that many cigars that I can't get any air through, get to be just a tight draw ~ 3 years later.  I smoked an Epi-2 a few months back that was an absolute tent-pole 3 years ago and it was awesome.  I don't ever get frustrated, rarely use my perfect-draw or pitch tent-poles; I just put them back for a longer rest and go get another of the same cigar (that I weigh as being closer to the Goldilocks value for that particular cigar).  When I get a plugged cigar, finding a better second cigar is now the only time I use my scale anymore!

Thanks for this insight. It sounds like you've got it figured out and are reaping the benefits. With any luck I'll be following you down this path to serenity.

[MC4]

On 10/27/2022 at 12:53 PM, Silverstix said:

I can't stand the perfect draw tool - it ends up making a tunnel in the head of the cigar and it never burns or tastes correct.  Am I alone in this?

 

I agree with this 100%.  Either it's ineffective in loosening up the tight draw or if/when it does, the taste is off.

[Lamboinee]

On 9/1/2023 at 11:52 AM, GVan said:

My conclusion from all of this is a good box is a good box regardless of weight differences.

Assume you are presented with 5 boxes of Boli PCs each with same box date, factory code, and of the same/similar apparent quality.  Each box has the same non-negotiable purchase price of 80 bagillion doll hairs EBITDA.  These are the last 5 boxes of cigars left on your planet and you have no chance of ever encountering any other cigars in your life. You have to pick one of these boxes to purchase for your own consumption before the 8:00am LA Transit Bus reaches 55 mph on the La Brea Tar Pit exit ramp.  If you fail to make your choice before the bus reaches 55 mph, then Keyahno Reeves will force you to eat a life sized cottage cheese sculpture of Dennis Hopper.....You are lactose intolerant and without any lactaid /gas-x pills. 

The only other info available is the weight of each cigar in each box.  All cigars in each box are within 20% of the official HSA posted weights. No other info is available. What do you do?

Would weight influence your decision regarding which box to purchase for your own consumption? If so, how? Can we use any generalizations about weight to guide our cigar selection? What if it was a life-sized cottage cheese sculpture of Sandra Bullock instead of Dennis Hopper? 

[Cigar Surgeon]

For what it's worth, I've started weighing all cigars for review as well as the internal humidity with the HumidiMeter Pro.  There have been some eyebrow raising results on some of the weights.

[Lamboinee]

1 hour ago, Cigar Surgeon said:

internal humidity with the HumidiMeter Pro

Have you had much luck using the humidimeter? I recently started using one as well but it seems difficult to get a consistent contact point/measurement.  

[Cigar Surgeon]

2 hours ago, Lamboinee said:

Have you had much luck using the humidimeter? I recently started using one as well but it seems difficult to get a consistent contact point/measurement.  

The new Pro version has closer tines and so the measurement of the same cigar seems consistent.  Whether it's an accurate reflection of the actual internal humidity is above my pay grade.

[Salomones]

I've been doing that for a while now.

It's also the reason why I don't buy RJ WC. many of them weigh as much as an average RJ SC.

 

[GVan]

17 hours ago, Lamboinee said:

Assume you are presented with 5 boxes of Boli PCs each with same box date, factory code, and of the same/similar apparent quality.  Each box has the same non-negotiable purchase price of 80 bagillion doll hairs EBITDA.  These are the last 5 boxes of cigars left on your planet and you have no chance of ever encountering any other cigars in your life. You have to pick one of these boxes to purchase for your own consumption before the 8:00am LA Transit Bus reaches 55 mph on the La Brea Tar Pit exit ramp.  If you fail to make your choice before the bus reaches 55 mph, then Keyahno Reeves will force you to eat a life sized cottage cheese sculpture of Dennis Hopper.....You are lactose intolerant and without any lactaid /gas-x pills. 

The only other info available is the weight of each cigar in each box.  All cigars in each box are within 20% of the official HSA posted weights. No other info is available. What do you do?

Would weight influence your decision regarding which box to purchase for your own consumption? If so, how? Can we use any generalizations about weight to guide our cigar selection? What if it was a life-sized cottage cheese sculpture of Sandra Bullock instead of Dennis Hopper? 

I would definitely take the Sandra Bullock sculpture over the Dennis Hopper sculpture.  And, I would take the box on the heavier side and put it away for a very long (4 to 5 year) rest expecting them to outperform the lighter boxes in taste.

[PuroDiario]

First, this is fun! But I am afraid the statistical significance of this home studies is extraordinarily limited and we are trying to measure an objective variable “weight” against a highly subjective one “quality of smoking experience” with both being highly impacted by confounding variables such year, age, storage conditions, etc. and also perhaps talking about correlation more than causation after all. I would be happy to volunteer with some others to conduct a proper as possible study though…full disclosure, I have never weighed a cigar I smoked and never have used/owned a perfect draw.

[Lamboinee]

1 hour ago, PuroDiario said:

! But I am afraid the statistical significance of this home studies is extraordinarily limited

Objectively good taste is horribly subjective. 

 

Let's form a focus group and do some studies! 

[Lamboinee]

On 11/1/2023 at 1:46 PM, PuroDiario said:

weight” against a highly subjective one “quality of smoking experience”

I'll take that as: we can't learn jack squat from this hypo. I might agree. And, I'm glad to have learned that. 

As your psychologist, how long have you been grappling with the unresolved trauma from your non unsubjective weight variance scoliosis? 

I'll always be here, weighting for you. 

 

On 11/1/2023 at 1:46 PM, PuroDiario said:

would be happy to volunteer with some others to conduct a proper as possible study though

Let's do it. But only if we convert grams to Lbs. I can't do kilometers. 

[cigaraholic]

 In the past when most gentlemen smoked cigars, you got fitted for a cigar like you got fitted for a suit. The way tobacconist fitted you for a cigar was by your draw. I think the reason so many people today complain about plugged Cuban cigars is they have the lungs of a butterfly and shouldn’t smoke anything bigger than a petite corona. Underfilled cigars smoke like crap, or should I say, crap lite. The better a cigar is filled and rolled is a little longer the stay in heaven!