Best boxes for long-term aging

[mwaller]

In attempt to organize my my collection, I would like to set aside full boxes that would benefit from, or at least tolerate long-term aging - say 10 years or more - in a cool, stable environment.  My potential candidates are listed below.  All are high quality examples from 2016-2019.  Which of these are my best-bets for the long haul? Thanks!

Bolivar: Petit Coronas, Belicosos Finos, Soberano
Cohiba: Robustos, Lanceros, Siglo V
H. Upmann: Petit Corona, No. 2, Mag 50, Mag 54, Connossieur A, Connoissieur B
Hoyo de Monterrey: Epicure Especial, Petit Robustos, Rio Seco
Montecristo: No. 1, No. 2, No. 4, Dantes EL
Partagas: Shorts, P2, E2
Por Larranaga:  Petit Coronas
Quai Dorsay: 50
Romeo Y Julieta: Churchills, Petit Churchills
San Cristobal: El Principe

[SOFLO88]

Magnum 50's Ive experimented with about 3 years of age. They got better as time went on.  I would say the P2 also which Ive also aged about 3 years. I know plenty of ppl on here age the Cohiba Robustos. 

 

I havent really aged most of the rest, longer than a year so I cant say on them.

[TBird55]

Would add Esplendidos, Lusitanias, and Punch DCs to the list.

[IanMcLean68]

I would also add Partagas 898V and H Upmann Sir Winston and Mag46 to the list.

[Markspring1978]

So, I’ve been working on a resource for members of this community that organizes information from Min Ron Nee’s Encyclopedia with respect to aging. MRN has many superlatives regarding vitola that have excellent aging potential. Within the next week or two, I will post this summary, and hope it will help everyone out, as this seems to be a regular question on this forum. 

I would add a hearty second to @IanMcLean68 additions. The V898, SW, and Mag 46 would be at the top of any aging list. Some others that I would add are ERDM CX and Monte Especials. 

I’m not convinced that Rio Seco and Monte 2 are good aging candidates. But I guess it depends on your preferences. I’m also not sure that ELs are going to get much better with age. Many have had disappointing results. 

[JLinz]

5 hours ago, SOFLO88 said:

Magnum 50's Ive experimented with about 3 years of age. They got better as time went on.  I would say the P2 also which Ive also aged about 3 years. I know plenty of ppl on here age the Cohiba Robustos. 

 

I havent really aged most of the rest, longer than a year so I cant say on them.

 

3 hours ago, TBird55 said:

Would add Esplendidos, Lusitanias, and Punch DCs to the list.

 

2 hours ago, IanMcLean68 said:

I would also add Partagas 898V and H Upmann Sir Winston and Mag46 to the list.

 

The OP can clarify for himself, but I don't read the OP as asking for additional recommendations as to which sticks will age well.  It appears that his current collection consists of those listed in his post and that he is trying to organize that collection based on aging potential. 

As for my two cents, I think the E2's, Mag 54 and Rio Secos would be good aging candidates, which is unfortunate because I'm having trouble keeping my hands off of them.  ?

 

2 hours ago, Markspring1978 said:

So, I’ve been working on a resource for members of this community that organizes information from Min Ron Nee’s Encyclopedia with respect to aging. MRN has many superlatives regarding vitola that have excellent aging potential. Within the next week or two, I will post this summary, and hope it will help everyone out, as this seems to be a regular question on this forum. 

I would add a hearty second to @IanMcLean68 additions. The V898, SW, and Mag 46 would be at the top of any aging list. Some others that I would add are ERDM CX and Monte Especials. 

I’m not convinced that Rio Seco and Monte 2 are good aging candidates. But I guess it depends on your preferences. I’m also not sure that ELs are going to get much better with age. Many have had disappointing results. 

This sounds like a great idea.  Will be looking forward to the summary!  

[mwaller]

19 minutes ago, JLinz said:

 

 

 

The OP can clarify for himself, but I don't read the OP as asking for additional recommendations as to which sticks will age well.  It appears that his current collection consists of those listed in his post and that he is trying to organize that collection based on aging potential. 

As for my two cents, I think the E2's, Mag 54 and Rio Secos would be good aging candidates, which is unfortunate because I'm having trouble keeping my hands off of them.  ?

Thanks for that. Indeed, I want to understand which of the sticks I already have would be the best candidates for aging.  

Thanks!

[BoliDan]

For me, the only things that "age" are the ones that I don't like smoking right now. If they are smoking good, they sure as hell aren't getting stashed away. Even 2019 CoRos or PLPCs will get the torch if they are good. But if you must, I'd say go ahead with any of your Cohibas, The RyJ Churchills, PLPCS and either box of Upmann Connoisseurs that you aren't thrilled with right now.

[GavLew79]

4 hours ago, mwaller said:

In attempt to organize my my collection, I would like to set aside full boxes that would benefit from, or at least tolerate long-term aging - say 10 years or more - in a cool, stable environment.  My potential candidates are listed below.  All are high quality examples from 2016-2019.  Which of these are my best-bets for the long haul? Thanks!

Bolivar: Petit Coronas, Belicosos Finos, Soberano
Cohiba: Robustos, Lanceros, Siglo V
H. Upmann: Petit Corona, No. 2, Mag 50, Mag 54, Connossieur A, Connoissieur B
Hoyo de Monterrey: Epicure Especial, Petit Robustos, Rio Seco
Montecristo: No. 1, No. 2, No. 4, Dantes EL
Partagas: Shorts, P2, E2
Por Larranaga:  Petit Coronas
Quai Dorsay: 50
Romeo Y Julieta: Churchills, Petit Churchills
San Cristobal: El Principe

From that list mate, I personally would out away the Cohibas, BBFs, Epicure Especials, Montes, Mag 50s and the RyJ Churchills. Puff the rest while those bad boys age. 

[Markspring1978]

25 minutes ago, mwaller said:

Thanks for that. Indeed, I want to understand which of the sticks I already have would be the best candidates for aging.  

Thanks!

Good clarification. Here would be my priority list for aging, from your current sock:

1. PLPC

2. CoLa

3. Boli PC

4. CoRo

5. BBF

 

[JohnS]

5 hours ago, mwaller said:

In attempt to organize my my collection, I would like to set aside full boxes that would benefit from, or at least tolerate long-term aging - say 10 years or more - in a cool, stable environment.  My potential candidates are listed below.  All are high quality examples from 2016-2019.  Which of these are my best-bets for the long haul? Thanks!

Bolivar: Petit Coronas, Belicosos Finos, Soberano
Cohiba: Robustos, Lanceros, Siglo V
H. Upmann: Petit Corona, No. 2, Mag 50, Mag 54, Connossieur A, Connossieur B
Hoyo de Monterrey: Epicure Especial, Petit Robustos, Rio Seco
Montecristo: No. 1, No. 2, No. 4, Dantes EL
Partagas: Shorts, P2, E2
Por Larranaga:  Petit Coronas
Quai Dorsay: 50
Romeo Y Julieta: Churchills, Petit Churchills
San Cristobal: El Principe 

As highlighted...but remember, these are just my opinion according to my preferences. And my preference for these choices, in this case, is that 'soft marshmallow' or 'creamy texture' you can get with these when aged long-term.

[FatPete]

I would age the Upmann No.2, Lanceros and the PLPC for sure from your list.

[canadianbeaver]

Any and none of the above.

??

CB

[mwaller]

Thanks for the comments.  Two other boxes came to mind as other potential candidates... Trinidad Coloniales and Cohiba Magicos. 
Are either of them built for the long haul?

 

 

[Jal154]

8 hours ago, mwaller said:

Cohiba: Robustos, Lanceros, Siglo V

Hoyo de Monterrey: Epicure Especial, Petit Robustos, Rio Seco

Partagas: Shorts, P2, E2

10 years I would choose the above minus the P shorts, HDM PR and Co Lanceros.

[wineguy]

1 hour ago, mwaller said:

Thanks for the comments.  Two other boxes came to mind as other potential candidates... Trinidad Coloniales and Cohiba Magicos. 
Are either of them built for the long haul?

 

 

I think Coloniales for sure  Ican’t speak to the Magicos 

[JohnS]

1 hour ago, mwaller said:

Thanks for the comments.  Two other boxes came to mind as other potential candidates... Trinidad Coloniales and Cohiba Magicos. 
Are either of them built for the long haul?

Cohiba Magicos...100% yes as I've had outstanding examples over 10 years old gifted by Trevor Leask, the founder of Cuban Cigar Website. Trinidad Coloniales...I have a 5 year-old box in my OLH and I have no doubt it can and will go 10 easy.

[IanMcLean68]

With the clarification that it only be from your existing stock, then I would choose:

Bolivar: Belicosos Finos
Cohiba: Robustos, Lanceros
H. Upmann: No. 2
Por Larranaga:  Petit Coronas
 

[BrightonCorgi]

All of the Bolivar, HdM, Cohiba, and Upmann are great candidates up 20 years old.

[Alexw33]

21 hours ago, mwaller said:

Thanks for the comments.  Two other boxes came to mind as other potential candidates... Trinidad Coloniales and Cohiba Magicos. 
Are either of them built for the long haul?

 

 

I have some 10 year old Reyes which are phenomenal, never aged the Coloniales yet but based on the Reyes I’d guess they’ll get better and better.

[mwaller]

Thanks for continued comments!

Are there a particular characteristics that make a cigar "better" for aging?   

[mwaller]

Ok, so I took a stab at assembling my "long term" storage vessel.  In the process, I found a few other boxes beyond those I listed above.  Here are the contents:

Bolivar: Coronas Junior, Petit Coronas, Coronas Gigantes, Soberano, Libertador

 

Cohiba: Robustos, Lanceros, Magicos, Medio Siglo, Siglo II, Siglo V

Montecristo: No. 1, No. 2, No. 4, Dantes EL

Partagas: P2, E2

 

PL: Petit Coronas

RyJ: Churchill

Upmann: Petit Coronas, Mag 46, Mag 50

Vegas Robaina: Unicos

Are there any that clearly don't belong?

Thanks!

[Fugu]

There is not a single one on your list that wouldn't be suited for aging, let alone not 'survive' a 5-year-plus storage. Likewise, there is not a single one that couldn't be enjoyed young, perhaps bar one: The only one from your selection - for me - that's in serious NEED of maturing is the Boli PC. Not because it couldn't be smoked young, like due to harshness or similar, but because it is usually somehow unexpressive up to boring when young (quite different to the CJ, for that matter). The only Boli in my book that needs aging to really shine (5+ to >10 yrs and it's a different cigar).

Apart from that - like you said - stable storage conditions is king!