Tiger Woods

[BMWBen]

With Tiger Woods back in the news here's a great article about him 

 

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/15278522/how-tiger-woods-life-unraveled-years-father-earl-woods-death

 

[MIKA27]

A real shame but even stars have their demons, stresses and depression.

I'm not a fan of Golf but I admire what Tiger has achieved - Hope he gets over this on his own personal merit, I highly doubt he will get over this professionally.

[BellevilleMXZ]

While not a golf fan,Hopefully he gets through this. Sad that as a famous person, its out there for all to see. Happens to 10s of thousands of other "normal" folks, and no one bats an eye. I can't imagine being in the public eye all the time

[TBird55]

As MIKA27 said, we all have our demons. 

[cigcars]

         *Thank GOD that most of the rest of us have never had cameras around US after a LOT of our nights of fun, debauchery, partying, etc., etc., etc. We'd plan for it - "Hey -I'm goin' out and gettin' BLINDED!!!"  Or - "I'm goin' out and get a bad head..."  And yeah - we dodged getting pulled over or having any vehicular accidents or anything.  We were on foot, or with others who'd volunteered to be our designated driver, and the poor guy would just have to float around looking very dejected or restless because HE wouldn't have anything to drink or get f%cked up with. The rest of us looked just like that poor Tiger Woods photo when we got in. So much for the "rewards" or "advantage" of "celebrity".

[Islandboy]

2 hours ago, cigcars said:

         *Thank GOD that most of the rest of us have never had cameras around US after a LOT of our nights of fun, debauchery, partying, etc., etc., etc. We'd plan for it - "Hey -I'm goin' out and gettin' BLINDED!!!"  Or - "I'm goin' out and get a bad head..."  And yeah - we dodged getting pulled over or having any vehicular accidents or anything.  We were on foot, or with others who'd volunteered to be our designated driver, and the poor guy would just have to float around looking very dejected or restless because HE wouldn't have anything to drink or get f%cked up with. The rest of us looked just like that poor Tiger Woods photo when we got in. So much for the "rewards" or "advantage" of "celebrity".

Not a huge fan of golf, or even Tiger, but this ^ pretty much sums up why the whole thing is faux news to me. Don’t get me wrong...driving drunk is irresponsible and careless, and it’s time for Tiger to do the time, just like anyone else. But as a news item, this is weak.

[semifan1]

The Lawyer says it was from prescription medication not alcohol, but in Florida it still falls under the DUI umbrella. Talk about a fall from grace. 

[SignalJoe]

58 minutes ago, Islandboy said:

Not a huge fan of golf, or even Tiger, but this ^ pretty much sums up why the whole thing is faux news to me. Don’t get me wrong...driving drunk is irresponsible and careless, and it’s time for Tiger to do the time, just like anyone else. But as a news item, this is weak.

This is what passes for news with a media who breathlessly reports how many scoops of ice cream the President has in relation to his staff  or that the VP "forced" reporters to watch "Hoosiers"  while on Air Force 2.   

Media stupidity aside Tiger is fascinating from a sports psychology perspective.  How does one lose the ability to dominate in such short order?  He is not the first or only, David Duval, Chuck Knoblauch and Rick Ankiel all come to mind.  However he is the most high profile to experience it.  Though we have no hard answers to the cause of his decline it is fascinating none the less.  

[El Presidente]

Tiger.....write it off to a bad day and move on! 

When the final book comes out and if told truthfully.....I will certainly read it. 

Elite sport is that mysterious mix of talent and what is going on between the ears. Injuries take a toll as well but that between the ear space is a bitch to master when off kilter. 

I hope there is another chapter to the bloke be it on course (unlikely) or off. I hope he finds some peace within himself. 

[Aussiegoldsmith]

Maybe this is Tiger's bottom. I know for me, the only way for me to stop, was the intervention of a police officer. None of us are immune from addiction, whether alcohol or drugs ( prescription or illicit). Nobody is so high or important that when the fall, from celebrities or sports figures, comes we are all shocked and surprised. We are all human and fallible. I pray for him and his family. If he can muster some humility and get help, there is always hope!


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[godpheonix]

This all started back with the cheating and when you cheat with over 16 women, and pay them to keep their mouths shut...well i don't feel sorry for him. he knew what he was doing, with 2 young kids in the fray at that. Mentally, i don't care what anyone says...he ain't getting back from that! ever! well at least he still has in millions!..poor Tiger! LOL

[Winchester21]

Tiger!!!!!!!!!!Dude WT#????????????

This was no "normal DUI" if there is such a thing. It appears from the news account that this was not one prescription med but 3 or 4 depending on who you believe. Including Ambien and Mr Vicodin for starters. According to police reports he was driving erratically on FLAT TIRES with BENT RIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!  He flunked 3 count them 3 sobriety tests. And he mouthed off to the cops.  To hell with his demons and problems. The man is a menace and could have killed one of my kids(or yours).    I say take Mr Cool and throw his celeb ass under the jail and lose the key. But that will not happen. He will get some high buck lawyer who plays golf with the judge and he will get a short trip to rehab or sex camp or wherever along with a big fine. Money fixes everything Just you watch. Poor little Tiger and his fall from grace and fame. I have had enough of this jerk. Lock his ass up!!

[PigFish]

The guy still makes 45M a year! I don't feel sorry for him.

I never feel sorry of any overpaid 'athlete.' They want the fame, they have the talent and they are worth whatever some damn fool agrees to pay them. What I don't have for any of them, including Mr. Woods is sympathy. He has not been stricken with cancer, nor hit by lightning... His undoing is of his own making.

If you are going to cheat on your wife or beat her, don't marry her in the first place. You should expect to get back what you give. I don't know the score, or who threw the first punch, but divorce is always an option if you don't like your spouse. I don't care how good at sport you are, or if you get an academy award... when you act like a fool, you should be dealt with as one.

Drugs and alcohol are another issue. We have all been trashed, many of us driven drunk and got away with it. Sometimes you get caught. As a teetotaler I have no sympathy for drunks and the addicted. What I see in this time and time again is as an excuse for bad behavior. This guy knows the rules for his endorsements, and the laws of the state(s) he resides. If he is not up to the challenge, maybe it is time to give the money to a new face that does.

I have but one judgement. With all this bread he could do some good with it. I am not a share the wealth kind of guy, but instead of being a once great golfer and an ostensible A-hole, he could be a role model for kids and others. It takes very little to become the once great golfer that is the nicest guy you ever met. It means being decent to people that love and respect you, your fans. It means being cheerful about being the representative of your sponsor. He is a paid representative of a group of companies. He should treat his employers and their customers with grace and respect and that means acting graceful and respectful in public.

People like Mr. Wood don't owe anyone for their talent or the skills resulting from their hard work. They work hard and pay an entry to get into a competitive game, and when they win, it is all them. But they do owe an adoring public for their lavish incomes when based in endorsements. Without the ad money and the selling of products to the public, they would be just like the athletes from 60 or 70 years ago, typically very talented, and broke but doing what they love to do.

Let him be judged by his peers for his crimes just like everyone else!

-the Pig

[cigcars]

      As I sort of intimated earlier, I do try not to be TOO judgemental when it comes to regular faults and failings we all have - and the larger dollar amount some folks have, the larger the mistake amount they can get into. And yes, it is true that one's dollar amount in most places around the world does get one off the hook that most of us regular folk would suffer;  Matthew Broderick KILLED TWO WOMEN in England, driving drunk there. Instead of spending 20+ years in prison, his money and fame got him off the hook for a fine, and some payment to their next of kin.  John Landis directed the Twilight Zone remake with the two underage Asian kids working illegally, and Vic Morrow - and they died under that helicopter crash. No prison or even jail time for Landis. Not meaning to get too far off the subject matter... I do definitely believe in the death penalty. However, as nearly all prison wardens and officials have admitted - "I've never sat a rich man in the electric chair".

  Hey - this is life and happenstance in our world. I would complain to my mom when I was young about all this kind of unfairness and she would tell me, "Girl, that kind of thing has been going on since way before you got here - and it'll BE going on when you're an old lady..."  So as I said...I try to close my list of complaints against the ways of the world and us human beings within it, and find peace remembering those Twelve Stepper members' advice of "accepting this old world as it is - not as I would have it".  

[Colt45]

judge not, that ye not be judged

for with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged:

and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again

Matthew 7:1-2

[TNT009]

Hoping he pulls through this mess.. Too talented to be dealing with this crap.

[rhcolbert]

4 hours ago, Colt45 said:

judge not, that ye not be judged

for with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged:

and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again

Matthew 7:1-2

Agreed.  I'll admit I was the worst at being jusgemental and quick to criticize until maybe a year ago.  I was actually a pretty shit person when I was so judgemental; I woulda had a TON to say about mr woods while my life was falling apart.

if it doesn't actually have an impact on me, it's just noise.  I catch myself caring here and there about things like this, but stop and realize my caring has no bearing on anything to do with it and I'm just turning over emotional control to a circumstance.

my son gets a DUI? Wife gets a DUI? Heaven forbid family or immediate friend impacted by a dui driver, then I care.  TW getting one has about as much impact on me and anyone I know as a fictional character getting one in a book I'm reading.  

[cigcars]

3 hours ago, rhcolbert said:

Agreed.  I'll admit I was the worst at being jusgemental and quick to criticize until maybe a year ago.  I was actually a pretty shit person when I was so judgemental; I woulda had a TON to say about mr woods while my life was falling apart.

if it doesn't actually have an impact on me, it's just noise.  I catch myself caring here and there about things like this, but stop and realize my caring has no bearing on anything to do with it and I'm just turning over emotional control to a circumstance.

my son gets a DUI? Wife gets a DUI? Heaven forbid family or immediate friend impacted by a dui driver, then I care.  TW getting one has about as much impact on me and anyone I know as a fictional character getting one in a book I'm reading.  

 

              

[polarbear]

I'm not a fan of this kind of "journalism"
There's a whole lot of "Tiger was left feeling like this" and "Tiger believed that" with not actual face time with the man in question.
How does this guy know how someone is feeling at any time?
He spoke to a few people, who also put their own spin on whatever they observed at the time

That having been said, I look back on the Tiger Wood phenomenon and think its a story of what happens when someone who just wants to do their job in peace is thrust into the limelight and is forced to stay there, regardless of whether the attention was wanted or not, I can imagine it cant be healthy for someone to have every facet of their existence under scrutiny both on and off the course.
Add to that the pressure of being at the top of your field for so long and having to deal with the people nipping at your heels hoping to topple you and the others who's livelihood depends on your success. Heavy is the head that wears the crown and few would dispute that Tiger was the king of golf for the better part of a decade.

While its hard to sympathetic for someone who seemingly ruined his own life but still has his millions of dollars, I do feel some sorrow for him. Any chance he had at a "normal life" is all but gone, even if the downfall of the last few years fades into the history books he will always be "Tiger Woods".

[wabashcr]

I feel sympathy for Tiger.  I get the sense he's not comfortable in his own skin.  He doesn't just get to be himself.  He feels immense pressure to conform to someone else's notion of who he should be as a person.  Yes, that's part of the trade off when you cash the endorsement checks.  But I don't think anyone can really know how that feels until they experience it first hand.  Money is nice to have, and can fix a lot of problems.  But it can't fix internal struggles we all have with ourselves.  Destructive behavior is evidence of that.  

My hope for Tiger, or anyone else for that matter, is to get to a place where you can be comfortable and happy with who you are.  Find a sense of purpose in life, whether it's being a father, helping in the community, or any number of creative outlets that have the ability to touch other people in a positive way.  Fill the void in your soul with something that makes you happy to get out of bed in the morning.  I'd love to see Tiger find his true purpose in life, and embrace it with the same vigor and relentlessness that he did the game of golf.  Do that, and nothing else matters.

[joeypots]

I can't imagine living with chronic pain. The news I read and see says Tiger has had multiple back surgeries and none has alliviated  his  pain. It's an all too familiar story, at least around here. Chronic pain and oxycodone.  What ever else is going on with him, booze, women, bad performance on the golf course, he may well simply be another casualty of the awful opiate crisis. I hope he's not too far gone to beat it, he looked pretty bad in the sobriety test  video.

[Winchester21]

Tiger Woods-"Nobody could screw up a career like I did last weekend"

Kathy Griffin- "Hold my beer"

[gcman68]

I am sure I could never understand what his life is like but I do have sympathy for him as a human being despite and all the self inflicted mistakes he has made. Still I will never understand the very wealthy that get behind a wheel and drive in any circumstance impaired when having someone available 24 hours is an easy thing to do. Having said that it is not like he takes his money and fame and does nothing. His tournament raises a lot of money and his foundation has helped, and continues to help, a lot of children so far. For the children he is helping his family and himself I am hoping he gets his life and health (mental and physical) in order. It's possible now he can do more to help others by being an inspiration in a different sense but good person on not at least his work in his foundation is more admirable than anything he has accomplished on the golf course so I will continue to root for him as a person and hopefully a success again.   Arnold and Jack did it differently but lets hope when he gets to their age we will be talking about this part of his life as the exception not he rule.

[Winchester21]

Did u guys see the film of his arrest? He had no idea where he was or what he was doing. It is a wonder he did not kill someone. Thank God he got stopped