acidmase Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I really want to know what you guys think? I haven't smoked any of these marca's, because of all the reviews and comments I've seen people make! My question to El Pres is as retailer does Habanos SA ever reach out to guys for your input? Because this boggles me why they put these crap cigars out when they could save money and produce better cigars in marca's
JohnS Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I got in first, voted Fonseca, then changed my vote to all of them. Why not? We have enough quality Cuban cigar brands.
RickHendeson Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I really want to know what you guys think? I haven't smoked any of these marca's, because of all the reviews and comments I've seen people make! My question to El Pres is as retailer does Habanos SA ever reach out to guys for your input? Because this boggles me why they put these crap cigars out when they could save money and produce better cigars in marca's Not to be divisive, but unless you believe these marcas actually lose money for HSA, this argument makes no sense 1
JohnS Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 At the very least Guantanamera should be ceased from production and all references to it wiped from history!
LordAnubis Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 The way i see it, If you have crap tobacco, that isn't up to standard, then why roll that into a cohiba? and jeopardise the prestige of the brand? You need a cheapo brand to put all the sub par tobacco into. Better producing some sort of product than throwing all the tobacco away... or worse, selling it to big tobacco to put into cigarettes I like vuegeros, quintero and jose l piedra (I heard they have been discontinued anyway). 3
JohnS Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I never thought of that Mus. If you put it that way I wouldn't want leftover or poor quality tobacco in a quality Cuban cigar brand.
CaptainQuintero Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I'm sad whenever I see any deletion, less Cuban cigars makes the world a more boring place 4
Popular Post Smallclub Posted February 21, 2015 Popular Post Posted February 21, 2015 I really want to know what you guys think? I haven't smoked any of these marca's, because of all the reviews and comments I've seen people make! Because this boggles me why they put these crap cigars out when they could save money and produce better cigars in marca's You haven't smoked any, but your opinion is forged: they are crap cigars? Maybe you could try a Favoritos or a Petit Caza or even better an aged Fonseca No.1 before you throw this kind of statement... And btw HSA makes big money with the Piedra and the Guantanamera lines, then cutting them is not even an option. 12
Smallclub Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I like vuegeros, quintero and jose l piedra (I heard they have been discontinued anyway). The joys of the internet... The "discontinuation" of the Piedra line is not even a rumour, it's a misinterpretation of a somehow poorly written sentence in a cigar blog, AFAIK… 1
oliverdst Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 With all these wonderful prices HSA has been applied lately I do hope any cheaper brand gets axed because in few years they will be all I can afford. 1
santela Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 If u delete sub-par brands like Fonseca, Quintero, and Guantanamo, then where would all the left over tobacco and poor quality tobacco go? HSA sure as heck won't be throwing them away.
Smallclub Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 If u delete sub-par brands like Fonseca, Quintero, and Guantanamo, then where would all the left over tobacco and poor quality tobacco go? HSA sure as heck won't be throwing them away. It would go in other "sub-par" cigars... What's the problem with having different grades, different qualities and different prices? Do you guys realize that these cigars SELL? 2
Hemsworth Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I rather enjoy Piedra, to be honest. I'm out now, but I generally like to have a box or two on hand. They are tasty little numbers that merely lack complexity. The price can't be beat! I've never had a Vegueros, so I can't comment on those. I've had three or four Fonseca's...didn't enjoy them very much. While I do have a few gifted Guantanameras in my humidor, I've never actually tried one. Perhaps I'll do that while cleaning the garage today. I vote none!
santela Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 It would go in other "sub-par" cigars... What's the problem with having different grades, different qualities and different prices? Do you guys realize that these cigars SELL? That's what I mean. You are preaching to the choir here my friend.
maxcjs0101 Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I really want to know what you guys think? I haven't smoked any of these marca's, because of all the reviews and comments I've seen people make! My question to El Pres is as retailer does Habanos SA ever reach out to guys for your input? Because this boggles me why they put these crap cigars out when they could save money and produce better cigars in marca's -post removed- 1
leftimatic Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Nothing wrong with lower scale cigars. Gotta fill the void somehow.
zrotfus Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I've heard some really good things about the new look Vegueros cigars. And some smokers I really respect on another forum I frequent swear by Jose L Piedra Cazadores as a really solid cigar at a very good price point.
Smallclub Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Min Ron Nee once told on an other forum that his everyday cigars were Piedra's. And this was years ago, when Piedras were much rougher compared to today's production. 1
Popular Post shlomo Posted February 21, 2015 Popular Post Posted February 21, 2015 None. We don't need more $40+ cigars with triple bands and serial numbers. We need enjoyable, relatively affordable cigars that most here would not be able to notice in a blind review. Nothing should be deleted except some of the newer nonsense like the Monte petit 2, the new vegueros, the psd5....overpriced hype. 9
Popular Post Smallclub Posted February 21, 2015 Popular Post Posted February 21, 2015 Can we axe the poll? 5
... Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Can we axe the poll? Ahah! I like your style No way though, there should be room enough for opinions to be verbalized, be they to one's liking or not... 1
rodrigodeanda Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 If I don't like an specific brand I won't be buying it and just let it be, sure there are people who like them. I would be really mad and sad if a brand I like were discontinued because someone else didn't like it. Also I don't get why you call them crap if you have not smoked them? I think the base of knowledge is experience, don't let the comments of other people be the base for your taste. Just smoke them, if you like any of those great!
mgravito Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I don't like the idea of axing anything. I don't like Punch, but I don't want anyone axing it either. I like options. There's an ass for every seat. 1
CaptainQuintero Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 None. We don't need more $40+ cigars with triple bands and serial numbers. We need enjoyable, relatively affordable cigars that most here would not be able to notice in a blind review. Nothing should be deleted except some of the newer nonsense like the Monte petit 2, the new vegueros, the psd5....overpriced hype. Here's a question, the 2015 EL the Upmann Mag 56 (Or was it 58?) will presumably have the second magnum band like both the m46 and m50. With the addition of the EL band will it be the first widely available Cuban triple band?
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