Grahamsant Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Stumbled across this delightful story today whilst browsing the news. An extremely wealthy woman who has a gambling problem is suing our Ritz Casino for "allowing" her to lose £2m in just a few hours. She claims that as some of the staff members may have known that she had a problem - it was their responsibility to stop her from gambling!?!?! Is it just me in thinking that problem or not, this woman should take some responsibility for herself? Surely she made the first error by walking through the door?? I am interested to see how this pans out in court. If they rule in her favour...how many people will jump on the bandwagon when they lose money and claim that they have a gambling addiction and somebody else should have stopped them and therefore the casino should refund them! Full story here...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28149325 1
stogieluver Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Oh, how I could go off on this, but since political discussions are inflammatory, I won't go there. 3
lipher Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I hate seeing garbage like this. Take some personal responsibility and man up (women and men alike). Anytime something goes wrong, it somebody/something else fault. Fatherless! 1
Ken Gargett Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 read it in the press over here. insane. hope her lawyers get rich and she is found on a park bench with a paper bag and a vomit covered shopping trolley. not politics. just idiocy. i suspect that hubbie has come home and said, enough. get it back or go. and she has tried this on, to see if the casino will fork up something to make it go away. and she is in for some disappointment. 2
LordAnubis Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I hope she wins, about time someone gets back at the millionaires making lots of money off of gamblers. You cant win with them fair and square so lets see how casinos like it when tey have stupid legal rules against them.
Maplepie Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I hope she wins, about time someone gets back at the millionaires making lots of money off of gamblers. You cant win with them fair and square so lets see how casinos like it when tey have stupid legal rules against them. I agree.... with reservation. however, she does have a pathos case. gotta admit: 3.7 million dollars in 'a few hours' is ridiculous.
Ken Gargett Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 don't mind if they decide to restrict gambling, though tough to make much of an impact. but not this way. she kneew the situation, she took the risks, she lost her dosh. now she wants them punished? had she won? she had hardly been giving it back. people like this don't deserve oxygen. 3
pbibby Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Oh, how I could go off on this, but since political discussions are inflammatory, I won't go there.Gotta agree with my friend here. Don't want to get my blood pressure elevated. Ha. Have at it gents. 1
oliverdst Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I will sue supermarkets for selling frizzy drinks to obese. And pubs for selling beers to alcohoolics. And Rob for selling me cigars... They want to plain package the world!!! 3
Ken Gargett Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I hope she wins too. Casinos suck. perhaps she should sue the person who forced her through the doors. or forced her to make the bets, or whatever she was doing. please spare me. she willingly chose to engage in a legal activity at a legal establishment. the day one of these pathetic whinging viruses hands some back after winning, i'll listen. whether it should be legal is another matter but it is surely not up to a judge to legislate, which is what she is asking. there are plenty of things i might firmly believe should not be legal but currently are, but that is a different matter. i'd have the tiniest nod of sympathy if she brought her action against the government, but not a casino (as much s they might be horrible grubby places, in the main). 2
Cisco Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Well... if she has an addiction and told the casino not to allow her to use her credit, as is her claim, then I think she MIGHT have a case. For the casino profit off someone who clearly has stated they have a problem is, to me, wrong, and depending on English law, might be illegal. If this person was not wealthy, there is no way she would have been offered any credit. "Have a gambling addiction and wealthy, sure we'll offer you outrageous credit". It seems that this woman also had a "credit" history at the casino prior to the losses in question and they probably know she is an addict. If she can prove that the Ritz knew she was an addict and she warned them to stop her BEFORE losing massive amounts on credit being offered by the Ritz, then I think she can win the case. It all comes down to how\if declarations were made ...I'm sure the Ritz will deny she said anything... 1
laficion Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 What, ? I didn't win the millons in the lottorey ? They said that I could win,Well, I'm going to sue them then !!!!!! Guy 2
potpest Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 If you go to a casino these days unaware that the odds are in the houses favour and you gamble money you can't afford; it's your fault, not the casino's. It's like blaming drinks companies for people being alcoholics because they can't exercise some sort of control over their own decisions. I personally frequent my local casinos often to play cash poker, they offer a fantastic atmosphere and service. If you choose to play the table games and you lose; it's your fault.
cigcars Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I will sue supermarkets for selling frizzy drinks to obese. And pubs for selling beers to alcohoolics. And Rob for selling me cigars... Good one, oliverdst!
Smallclub Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I think I should sue cigar forums for making me waste my time… 1
Bulldog4 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 it happened here in vancouver couple years ago but this woman signed up for a gambler holics list that was suppose to alert the casinos when she arrived however they didn't stop her so she sued them for allowing her to lose money well she wasn't suppose to be even able to get in
Philski Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Did she win? Maybe the whole 'try to sue the casino where you lost your cash' is an extended gamble in itself!
Philski Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Hmmm. Seems like a harsh judgement, and has a slight mafia whiff about it.
oliverdst Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Só, if she bets 2 and wins 5 she can't accept it, right?
garbandz Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 "The Ritz rejected the accusations, saying it was owed £1m because cheques she gave them had not been not honoured. The casino's barrister, Clive Freedman QC, told the court that nine months after she lost the money, Mrs Al-Daher had paid half her debt without making a complaint. The chief executive of the Ritz, Roger Maris, said it was not unusual for high-stakes gamblers to have their cheque-cashing facility extended. He said Mrs Al-Daher's previous history of paying her debts had been very good." "Ms Al-Daher had already suffered substantial losses at other casinos earlier the same day, in April 2012." Enough for me,if I were on the bench I would rule for the casino..............
garbandz Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I think I should sue cigar forums for making me waste my time… Sure,heres $3.63.............go away.
Smalls Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I will sue supermarkets for selling frizzy drinks to obese. And pubs for selling beers to alcohoolics. And Rob for selling me cigars... They want to plain package the world!!! This happens occasionally here in the states. They go after bar owners and bartenders who over serve people who are drunk. They argue that it is negligent to continue to serve someone who is obviously drunk to any reasonable person. If she had a known problem that the casino was aware of it probably could go either way.
imangelo Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 She'll never get away with it in court...but then again, I didn't think that lady who got millions for hot coffee burning her would get a dime.
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