How to store cigars for a month out of a humidor

[JasnRach]

Hi All,

Looking for some advice please.

On top of my normal purchases I am now, well in a month, purchasing a box of cigars every two months from overseas but the problem is I can not get them home to my humidor for 4-5 weeks each time.

I will have them on me but no humidor, what is the best way for me to store these till I get home?

Zip lock bag with a boveda pack, double zip lock with a boveda bag??? I have no idea.

Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

[JoeyGunz]

Tupperware and a boveda would suffice.

[CaptainQuintero]

Double ziplock and a boveda should be perfect

[JasnRach]

Thanks Joey.

Yeh I guess it would, that would be good for the bulk of the 4-5 weeks. What size Boveda would you use for one box, 60gram 69% or just the travel pack 8gram 69%?

Would the ziplock still work for when I travel home each time on the plane? The tupperware will be to bulky for the actual flights home I think or is the tupperware the best idea?

I might get a cheap hygrometer to thro in as well.

Sorry if these questions sound silly but I am only a newbie, I really have no idea right no but the main thing is I do know how to smoke and enjoy them

[JasnRach]

Thanks Captain.

[Smallclub]

Humi-Pouch bags

[thebigk]

I have used space bags the one that you use the vacuum to remove the air they have a great seal and can buy them at most box stores

and no need for a hygro if you are using boveda

[tippexx]

Living where you do I'm not sure you need do anything other than put them in a cool shaded place.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_040764.shtml

[Havanaaddict]

(L) Ziploc Big Bag Double Zipper $6 to $8 for (5) bags

• Big, strong, versatile Ziploc Brand Bag
• Can be used to store clothing, bedding, holiday decorations, sports equipment and more
• Pleated bottom and secure Double Zipper Seal; fits into places where storage boxes can't
• Flexible, heavy-duty plastic; convenient built-in handles
• Protection from moisture, dust and pests; natural, flexible shape of a bag

Can pick these up in Target, Walmart, ect.

I have used the LX ones for extra box storage works great!!!

[PapaDisco]

Double ziplock and skip the Boveda would be my thoughts. I travel frequently on long (16-20 hr) flights where the cabin humidity drops to zero. I've traveled with and without Boveda's in my ziplocks and finally did a little experiment last March. Turns out, a properly sealed ziplock (or two) is all you need and the cigars provide plenty of their own moisture. Nino has been saying this for a long time. So I've stopped tossing in the Boveda and just zip and go. It's critical that you not have any leaks at all in the bag though. Even a tiny gap will allow the rH in the bag to drop to zero quickly on a flight, and thus the wisdom of double bagging.

Likewise, when not on a plane, the cigars' own humidity will keep them safe if properly sealed. I've tested packages that have been shipped from Oz (who the hell buys cigars from Australia?? ) by pulling out a couple of sticks on arrival and tossing in a small hygrometer. Every time, even if the package has been in transit for 4 weeks, the rH tests in the low to mid 60's. It's because Alastair and the crew wrap them up nice and snug and the cigars supply the humidity.

So if it were me, and the cigars I was buying were properly humidified to begin with, then I'd just seal them in a ziplock and do my best to keep their temperature stable. You can use a Boveda or water pillow if you like, but your more immediate threat is likely to be too much moisture, not too little. As temperature falls, rH initially climbs towards dew point (condensation!) before the colder air gets dryer. I'd be more worried about over humidifying and mold.

Here's my earlier post about hygrometers on a plane: http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=118178

[Pedro2486]

Taking papadiscos post in mind, I would use an 80g 62rh boveda and double seal ziplock. You can always add/remove the boveda to avoid dew point if needed

[PapaDisco]

Taking papadiscos post in mind, I would use an 80g 62rh boveda and double seal ziplock. You can always add/remove the boveda to avoid dew point if needed

Good option. The Boveda's of course will absorb as well as emit moisture, I just haven't found the absorption all that effective. My bovedas in hot-and-humid Vietnam are always turning super squishy as they absorb water from the humi, whereas my bovedas in the States are always going slowly crunchy as they dry out over 5-6 months in the humi.

[garbandz]

Have used a boveda in a double zip lock many times over the years. I probably have 12 boxes stored this way now.

Your idea of a hygrometer is not bad,I have not had much luck with one in a plastic bag,unless the box is open.

The boveda should cover it............I use the 65% or 69%,unless you can keep them under 70- 72 degrees I would never use anything higher %..........

[mk05]

A ziplock bag is enough. The vapor transmission rate is not that high to warrant you freaking out for 30 days. Here's a question: why the double bagging? If the vapor has already left the first bag, who cares if the residual exists in the secondary? It's already exited the first one to a lower system. It's not going back in.

But obviously, more humidity is always preferable to less humidity! Lose less!

[JasnRach]

Thanks for the responses gents.

I think the zip locks seem the way for the plane.

I will store for the bulk in a tupperware container with a boveda.

[JasnRach]

Double ziplock and skip the Boveda would be my thoughts. I travel frequently on long (16-20 hr) flights where the cabin humidity drops to zero. I've traveled with and without Boveda's in my ziplocks and finally did a little experiment last March. Turns out, a properly sealed ziplock (or two) is all you need and the cigars provide plenty of their own moisture. Nino has been saying this for a long time. So I've stopped tossing in the Boveda and just zip and go. It's critical that you not have any leaks at all in the bag though. Even a tiny gap will allow the rH in the bag to drop to zero quickly on a flight, and thus the wisdom of double bagging.

Likewise, when not on a plane, the cigars' own humidity will keep them safe if properly sealed. I've tested packages that have been shipped from Oz (who the hell buys cigars from Australia?? ) by pulling out a couple of sticks on arrival and tossing in a small hygrometer. Every time, even if the package has been in transit for 4 weeks, the rH tests in the low to mid 60's. It's because Alastair and the crew wrap them up nice and snug and the cigars supply the humidity.

So if it were me, and the cigars I was buying were properly humidified to begin with, then I'd just seal them in a ziplock and do my best to keep their temperature stable. You can use a Boveda or water pillow if you like, but your more immediate threat is likely to be too much moisture, not too little. As temperature falls, rH initially climbs towards dew point (condensation!) before the colder air gets dryer. I'd be more worried about over humidifying and mold.

Here's my earlier post about hygrometers on a plane: http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=118178

Thanks Papa,

For the bulk of the 4-5 weeks they will be in constant A/C in Thailand so I would need some form of humidification wouldn't I?

They will also travel to me in Thailand from Dubai without any sort of packaging..............well thats a lie, probably a shopping bag!

[JasnRach]

Taking papadiscos post in mind, I would use an 80g 62rh boveda and double seal ziplock. You can always add/remove the boveda to avoid dew point if needed

Have used a boveda in a double zip lock many times over the years. I probably have 12 boxes stored this way now.

Your idea of a hygrometer is not bad,I have not had much luck with one in a plastic bag,unless the box is open.

The boveda should cover it............I use the 65% or 69%,unless you can keep them under 70- 72 degrees I would never use anything higher %..........

Thanks Pedro & Garbandz, think I will try and purchase the 62-65 Boveda's.