warren516 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I have had someone try to convince me that the Cuban Cohiba actually has their cigars rolled in a fenced in factory in the Dominican Republic and then has it shipped back to Cuba. Such rubbish.
LeafLover Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Frank, for the money I spend on this ****, call me when they blend in some leaf from Jamaica my bruthuh. CB Go to Colorado darlin
LeafLover Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 The only thing I can confirm is this: My RA Extras taste very non-cubanesque.
Chunks96ss Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 ive been hearing these rumors also, usually from NC retailers and reps trying to sell their cigars, desperation is a stinky cologne
dvickery Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 wellllllllllllll ... the fake cuban cigars are/may be rolled with non cuban tobacco . there ... now everybody is happy . derrek
mgravito Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 The only thing I can confirm is this: My RA Extras taste very non-cubanesque. I couldn't disagree anymore. Name me a country outside of Cuba that gives me that wonderful RA stewed fruit with depth with virtually no harshness. No one outside of Cuba can give you that. NCs can give you a certain richness, but not without punching you in the face with nicotine or harshness. Same with HURR, P898, on down the line.
shlomo Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I couldn't disagree anymore. Name me a country outside of Cuba that gives me that wonderful RA stewed fruit with depth with virtually no harshness. No one outside of Cuba can give you that. NCs can give you a certain richness, but not without punching you in the face with nicotine or harshness. Same with HURR, P898, on down the line. Perhaps you have tried them, but try a Fuente 858 maduro. Sweet (I suppose stewed fruit...LOL...Frank!) and certainly no face punch.
aes8 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I couldn't disagree anymore. Name me a country outside of Cuba that gives me that wonderful RA stewed fruit with depth with virtually no harshness. No one outside of Cuba can give you that. NCs can give you a certain richness, but not without punching you in the face with nicotine or harshness. Same with HURR, P898, on down the line. Don Carlos Lancero ain't bad either
cigcars Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 hmmm, so that's why my upmann mag 48's taste like that......
cigcars Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Go to Colorado darlin ***OHHH, you mean the "other" Jamaican tobacco? Because I'd LIKE to try a combination of actual Jamaican & Cuban tobacco. Jimmy Chang of Jamaican cigar industries is supposed to have featured that tobacco combo in his original Montalvos. But I'd sure flee from the "other" type of smoke! That's all I'd need...something to increase my appetite, have me lounging around and hungry all the time....I'D be the next subject on TLC's "My 600lb Life".
LeafLover Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 ***OHHH, you mean the "other" Jamaican tobacco? Because I'd LIKE to try a combination of actual Jamaican & Cuban tobacco. Jimmy Chang of Jamaican cigar industries is supposed to have featured that tobacco combo in his original Montalvos. But I'd sure flee from the "other" type of smoke! That's all I'd need...something to increase my appetite, have me lounging around and hungry all the time....I'D be the next subject on TLC's "My 600lb Life". Classic.
SaintLuis Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 it is pretty fascinating to me, however, that cigars like the RA Extra and H. Upmann Mag 48 - special release cigars mind you - taste surprisingly like NC cigars at times... not to stir the pot, here, it's just a coincidence as far as i'm concerned... The Trinidad Short Robusto EL was the same way. Both looked and tasted like a Sun Grown Chateau Fuente - which is an ecuadorian wrapper. I'm not saying this nonsense is in anyway true, but the limited release comment was interesting, and rang a bell with me. Those short robustos were simply bad. Expensive, and bad.
Smallclub Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Yes, certain ELs taste like NCs. It simply shows that aged maduro wrappers have a tendancy to taste similar, regardless of their terroir… 1
Fosgate Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 It's funny to flip through a non CC catalog and see how many NC's keep the rumors flowing just on their labeling. Actually had a tobacconist tell me he heard the Cusano had Cuban tobacco in it. At $2.25 a stick I highly doubt it and if it really was it's probably the rejected tobacco the street people offer tourists.
stillinger Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 It's the same reason people buy ten dollar boxes of fakes in Mexico. The American consumer on the whole is ignorant of everything but the name and the location of where the better cigars come from. If you say Cuban, even whispered, it makes people buy them. You could roll up newspaper and banana peels and slap a Cohiba logo on the box and some rube would buy them. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1
Guyman1966 Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I might be new to CC’s, but from my short time reading about them it seems that there is more talk about poor quality then when buying high quality vs. NC’s. From the few that I have enjoyed, it seems that the high quality CC and NC are similar.
KoreanCowboy Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I used to think like Guyman, that NC and CC are similar, that is until I got an HQ box of Magicos and an HQ box of PSD4. It's easy to see why the PSD4 is the BEST robusto in the world. Was literally everything I have ever wanted in a cigar. There is NO non Cuban that can compete with those cigars. 1
Skyfall Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I might be new to CC’s, but from my short time reading about them it seems that there is more talk about poor quality then when buying high quality vs. NC’s. From the few that I have enjoyed, it seems that the high quality CC and NC are similar. I respectfully disagree 100%. 1
Guyman1966 Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I respectfully disagree 100%. Hey! That is what I’m here to find out. LOL I can’t wait to dive in and try everything. And, I hope that I’m proven wrong. Because, I can’t imagine getting even MORE pleasure from a smoke. Best wishes! Mike
Cigar Surgeon Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I might be new to CC’s, but from my short time reading about them it seems that there is more talk about poor quality then when buying high quality vs. NC’s. From the few that I have enjoyed, it seems that the high quality CC and NC are similar. It's not a popular opinion and people are going to disagree with you. As an owner of quite a lot of NC cigars I can say that I rarely have construction problems and draw problems versus CCs. I'd guesstimate it's a 1:7 ratio or higher. 1
Afficionado1 Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 If it's true then they put the entire imported tabaco into the Infantes ER Cuba. No flavor, just hot air to me so it could be true 2
helix Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 time out of my life I'll never get back........................... 1
Skyfall Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 It's not a popular opinion and people are going to disagree with you. As an owner of quite a lot of NC cigars I can say that I rarely have construction problems and draw problems versus CCs. I'd guesstimate it's a 1:7 ratio or higher. I haven't had hardly any construction issues in my CC's since the early 2000's. I'd say since 2006, my construction issue % is in the 2-3% range, almost non-existent for me.
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