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I'm interested in hearing your opinions, research and/or experiences in the negative effect on the cigars, if any, of long term storing cigar boxes vertically.

Feel free to post reports, or links that do discuss the science behind this if you know of any. I have been told both that it has a negative effect and I've been told it doesn't, 50/50. I am very interested in this, i've pondered this topic for a ling time.

Disclaimer: There are going to be those of you that inevitably will remark, " Don't worry about long term aging, life is short, smoke 'em if you got em."

That's not really what I'm looking for, nor is it my shared philosophy. I've invested a lot in specific boxes of cigars with specific box dates to commemorate milestones in my life. I hope to long term age these, 18 year plus), so I can enjoy with my son when he graduates, get's married, and has kids of his own.

I have yet to really hear anything definitive. Those that say it has a negative effect claim that the oils will eventually travel to the lower end of the cigar. Not sure if I buy into that without any evidence.

Your input is appreciated

This may get lost among all of the recent reviews, but feel free to bump it up when necessarily.

Ray, please chime in at will!

Thanks!

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Why do I hear the music from Tetris running through my head when I read this post...

Surely by that logic, if you store your cigars horizontally then the oils will travel down to the lowest point in the cigar and you would see a dark line running along the bottom where the oil has gat

Have you considered a career in diplomacy?

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Those that say it has a negative effect claim that the oils will eventually travel to the lower end of the cigar.

Surely by that logic, if you store your cigars horizontally then the oils will travel down to the lowest point in the cigar and you would see a dark line running along the bottom where the oil has gathered?

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I have smoked cigars left by my late father, and I am talking 1980-1998 cigars stored whichever way he could cram them into a converted cabinet.

They were stored horizontally, vertically and by a fluke of chance he only smoked 3 types of cigars, so I had the ability to test boxes from the same year stored both ways.

I with my limited palate could not tell the differences and I have smoked over a 150 cigars stored either each way.

Regarding oils, have not seen any difference in the horizontal and vertical cigars, none had any marks of oils building up or such.

only problem was when I opened a box stored sideways, I have noticed that the two lower cigars had been really pressed in, so I smoked till I could release them from captivity.

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Jars tend to be vertical storage as well don't they? You'd hope the makers would know what they're doing and that this wouldn't have an adverse effect...

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Those that say it has a negative effect claim that the oils will eventually travel to the lower end of the cigar. Not sure if I buy into that without any evidence.

:surprised: Who could have told you that? This must be the dumbest statement I've ever heard about cigars…

If the oils undergo gravity, how do they appear all around cigars, including the upper side, in dress boxes?

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Why do I hear the music from Tetris running through my head when I read this post... :thinking:

My humidor usually looks like a Tetrris game.

I've stored vertically for over a few years with no detectable issues.

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:surprised: Who could have told you that? This must be the dumbest statement I've ever heard about cigars…

If the oils undergo gravity, how do they appear all around cigars, including the upper side, in dress boxes?

Have you considered a career in diplomacy? :lol:

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I'm interested in hearing your opinions, research and/or experiences in the negative effect on the cigars, if any, of long term storing cigar boxes vertically.

Feel free to post reports, or links that do discuss the science behind this if you know of any. I have been told both that it has a negative effect and I've been told it doesn't, 50/50. I am very interested in this, i've pondered this topic for a ling time.

Disclaimer: There are going to be those of you that inevitably will remark, " Don't worry about long term aging, life is short, smoke 'em if you got em."

That's not really what I'm looking for, nor is it my shared philosophy. I've invested a lot in specific boxes of cigars with specific box dates to commemorate milestones in my life. I hope to long term age these, 18 year plus), so I can enjoy with my son when he graduates, get's married, and has kids of his own.

I have yet to really hear anything definitive. Those that say it has a negative effect claim that the oils will eventually travel to the lower end of the cigar. Not sure if I buy into that without any evidence.

Your input is appreciated

This may get lost among all of the recent reviews, but feel free to bump it up when necessarily.

Ray, please chime in at will!

Thanks!

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Hay I do it because I'm tight for space.I collect a lot of cigars I age, and there is no difference. I have cigars pre embargoed that are just fine.I have been doing this for a very long time.When time to smoke they are perfect.

Best Jared

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Hay I do it because I'm tight for space.I collect a lot of cigars I age, and there is no difference. I have cigars pre embargoed that are just fine.I have been doing this for a very long time.When time to smoke they are perfect.

Best Jared

They are also resealed with wax paper ensuring a further enclosed environment.

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I've heard the same thing (urban legend?) about not storing cigars vertically. I can't see it mattering unless you're talking about extreme long-term storage, like 50 years or something. I don't think I'll have anything that long, so I don't worry about it.

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I like to store my cigars with the feet down... so that I get more flavors earlier on in the smoke :clown2:

Seriously... the oils will migrate, and the cigar will age the same at positions of 15, 34, 54 and 0 degrees from horizontal. :2thumbs:

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Have you considered a career in diplomacy? :lol:

Diplomacy is for sissies :jester:

Seriously, why would they release top level products in jars if this conditioning were detrimental to cigars in the long term?

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For me I haven't tried. However I also haven't had the need but I can't see why or how it would negatively affect the cigar.

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Hay I do it because I'm tight for space.I collect a lot of cigars I age, and there is no difference. I have cigars pre embargoed that are just fine.I have been doing this for a very long time.When time to smoke they are perfect.

Best Jared

Jared, when did you start collecting pre embargo cigars? How old are the cigars you collect that you age? Just trying to set a frame of reference.

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Diplomacy is for sissies :jester:

Seriously, why would they release top level products in jars if this conditioning were detrimental to cigars in the long term?

You keep your jars upright!?!? They're supposed to be laid on their side so they can rest like their brethren in cheap cedar boxes. :P

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Don't hold your breath waiting for any scienfic studies on something like this.

If storing the cigars vertically made a difference then wouldn't there also be a difference if the boxes were stored upside down compared to right side up? There is no difference how they lay.

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