Professor Twain Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I have seen pictures that people have posted of cigars starting to ooze a thick tarry substance after they have been smoked a bit. I have never had this happen before though. Well last night I took out some nice 2004 Montecristo Joyitas, they were in a cardboard 5 pack, and shared them with my son and one of his friends. The temperature was in the high 50s and it was a nice evening. BOTH my son and his friends had this tarry stuff ooze out from the head of their cigars a few minutes after lighting, and got the associated bitter taste. It was dark out and I didn't get my camera but on both of the cigars they had little dark brown bubbles. I had them both do another clip and the cigars were fine the rest of the way out. My Joyita did fine at first but began to get a bitter taste just after halfway through, never got any tar bubbles but I gave up on the cigar. Any thoughts on when these tar bubbles are most likely to appear, and why we had TWO from the same 5 pack? Do you think the kids may have smoked them a bit fast and gotten the cigars over heated, might that have contributed? I have the other two cigars from that 5er and may spring them on some unsuspecting friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypots Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I've had the tar a couple of times. The juiciest gob came out of a Monte #2 that I was about half way through. Couldn't tell you why it happens....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa1257 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 As one of Professor Twains usual unsuspecting friends, I will say that yes I have had this happen before, rarely thank goodness. I believe that a lot of this happens because of the "wetness" the cigar smoker using together with "hotboxing" the cigar (which is basically smoking the cigar too fast and too hot) coupled with a cigar that has some leaf that has oils in it. The extra clip removed the oil or tar that oozed out and the taste was not bitter afterward if I read your post correct. Just my opinion, this has so rarely happened that I am really guessing on what causes this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkz Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 The few times this has happened to me it seems to be linked to the size of the cut. For a short time I used a punch-cutter and It was usually then this could happen. Also if I´m sloppy with the regular cutter and cut away to little this has happened. Off course, not all the times. But for me, the tar-thingy has always come in company of a small hole... Im sure others have totally different opinions on this matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 PT, it's happened to me a couple of times, and I was never quite sure why - I kind of assumed it was ring gauge and / or smoking too fast. I know it's come up a few times here, and I think in the end it's more a matter of moisture content (including oils). Here's a thread I was able to find: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 The few times this has happened to me it seems to be linked to the size of the cut. For a short time I used a punch-cutter and It was usually then this could happen. Also if I´m sloppy with the regular cutter and cut away to little this has happened. Off course, not all the times. But for me, the tar-thingy has always come in company of a small hole... Im sure others have totally different opinions on this matter... must say that fortunately i have never had this happn. have been using a punch cutter for a while and seems not to have induced this. will keep an eye out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Twain Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Thanks for all of the comments. Yes, it is interesting that the two kids who were smoking (and probably smoking too fast/hot) were the ones who had the tarry stuff appear. I will spring the rest of this 5 pack on my buddies on Thursday and see if the Tar Monster attacks them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aavkk Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I have had this happen to me about 4 or 5 times. I smoke slowly and each time this has happened it was with thin rg smokes: PL Montecarlo, 02 LGC #4, and 01 VR clasicos. I just clipped a little more off with my Palio and problem solved. Just for clarification, I cut all my smokes with my Palio. The stuff sure is bitter and definitely a nuisance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP012 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 It's happened to me twice before, however, both times were Arturo Fuente cigars a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilroy Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Thanks for all of the comments. Yes, it is interesting that the two kids who were smoking (and probably smoking too fast/hot) were the ones who had the tarry stuff appear.I will spring the rest of this 5 pack on my buddies on Thursday and see if the Tar Monster attacks them. Having just returned from being sprung upon I come to report that they were fine smokes and at no point was there any black tarish substances to be found. They were very flavorful and quite enjoyable... Not as enjoyable as our blind tastings went... but enjoyable none the less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Japan Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 This is happened to me several times (4 maybe 5) with a box of Montecristo Edmundo, anyhhow after cutting the cigar again the problem is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Candido Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 The thick tar substance does not come from cigars. It comes from blunts - or so I have read. Check your sources for your cigars! If they are standing on a street corner, you might want to purchase elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa1257 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Yes, these are very flavorful and I can report no tarry substance from them. As I spoke with Professor Twain last night, I believe that the cause was smoking the cigar way too hot while also soaking the head of the cigar with excess saliva. Suggested solutions would be to dry lip smoking to avoid excess wetness and to slow down how fast the cigar is being smoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Twain Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 So glad that Kilroy and Tampa agreed to be my guinea pigs on these... they had looks of delight on their faces as they smoked these up. I highly recommend the Monte Joyitas if you can find them, as long as you smoke them slowly. And yes, avoid the Blunts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adixs Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 The only cigar I have had this happen with is Jose Piedra Brevas. The tar was mixed with some short filler. yum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Just because any thread is better with pictures... That happened to me a couple years ago now, snapped a few pics when I did. Arturo Fuente set it right. More here: http://schnierer.org/theinternet.asp?page=...al/Cigars/GROSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Having never had this happen to me before - I had troubles imagining what you were all talking about...and now that I see it think it looks disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 That just looks oh so wrong! Hope I never experience this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adixs Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 That just looks oh so wrong! Hope I never experience this. Tic...tic...tic....everytime you smoke now.....it will be like a time bomb waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Twain Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thanks for posting those pics, that is just what it looked like (but smaller since it was a much tinier cigar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP012 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Just because any thread is better with pictures... That happened to me a couple years ago now, snapped a few pics when I did. Arturo Fuente set it right. More here: http://schnierer.org/theinternet.asp?page=...al/Cigars/GROSS I'm not seeing stairs in your house... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digi Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I'm not seeing stairs in your house... Well hidden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Just because any thread is better with pictures... That happened to me a couple years ago now, snapped a few pics when I did. Arturo Fuente set it right. More here: http://schnierer.org/theinternet.asp?page=...al/Cigars/GROSS seriously, if that happened to me, i think i couldn't touch a cigar for at least a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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