So what do you think about Edicion Limitada Cigars?

[Havanaaddict]

So what do you think about Edicion Limitada Cigars?

How often do you smoke one?

Which one is your favorite?

[ha_banos]

Just as much a gamble as regular cigars! These always come back to mind, mind.

• Partagas Seleccion Privada 2014
• Bolivar Super Coronas 2014

[Dadof3]

I think whatever the original intent was the Regionals and Limited Editions have become largely marketing exercises to justify the higher prices. Is there anything truly special about them?  

[bmac]

I’ve recently sourced boxes of:

• RA Absolutos
• LGC Glorias 

I’ll let them rest a bit longer before cracking.Will report back.

Regionals recently sourced:

• Diplomaticos-Leal-lovely 
• LGC Belux
• SLR Adamastor-gorgeous experience 

There are others but they escape me at the moment.

[Havanaaddict]

So what do you think about Edicion Limitada Cigars? I think they definitely have their place!!

How often do you smoke one? I will smoke one every month or so, just to wake up my palate. The richness and sweetness of the maduro wrapper makes me look for more of those flavors in my normal rotation!

Which one is your favorite? Cohiba Talismán, Montecristo Supremos, Ramón Allones Club Allones, Partagás Selección Privada. 

[CanuckSARTech]

I used to go fairly big on them. Haven't bought any in about 6 or 7 years now. Sold a bunch off (a fair amount of extra stock / ones I ended up not liking).  Many from mid 2000's to mid 20-teens were fairly nice. 

RA Extras are one of my favorites over time. And Monte Sublimes. Last smoked either about a year to 18 months ago??

 

[Puros Y Vino]

12 hours ago, Dadof3 said:

I think whatever the original intent was the Regionals and Limited Editions have become largely marketing exercises to justify the higher prices. Is there anything truly special about them?  

You're not wrong, but IMO there have been some classics out of both programs. It does make you wonder, could Habanos use these tobaccos in their regular line up? Sure, but they're doing what a lot of industries are doing. And that's using the "best" of what they make to get more profit. Good tobacco goes into higher priced offerings. Good grapes, into more expensive wines and to borrow from the tech world, CPU's that perform better than others at higher sustained speeds get a markup too. Even though they are the exact same CPU. It's called "binning". This is what marketing does.  

You don't have to buy them, you can be just fine with regular production. For me though, I've been more pleased than disappointed in both programs.

[loose_axle]

I haven’t had many but the QDO Senadores (2019) were phenomenal with promise of aging well so I’ve left the last few to try again in a few years.

[pohlmad]

I smoke one probably once every quarter. I really like to buy them knowing they’re a gamble but have run into some great ones.  If you are looking at value, probably not worth it, but if you like the gamble and like having something different to try, and celebrate with friends, they are for you! Agreed with @loose_axle that the QDO Senadores are phenomenal. I also really like the Monte Supremos!  

[pohlmad]

6 hours ago, loose_axle said:

I haven’t had many but the QDO Senadores (2019) were phenomenal with promise of aging well so I’ve left the last few to try again in a few years.

I bought an extra box of these because they were so good in hopes that aging made them even better! I couldn’t agree more!

[Ken Gargett]

8 hours ago, CanuckSARTech said:

 I used to go fairly big on them. Haven't bought any in about 6 or 7 years now. Sold a bunch off (a fair amount of extra stock / ones I ended up not liking).  Many from mid 2000's to mid 20-teens were fairly nice. 

RA Extras are one of my favorites over time. And Monte Sublimes. Last smoked either about a year to 18 months ago?? 

bit similar. when they started, i was all over them and followed them very closely. when they started, they were actually cheaper than the regular stuff. i'm sure that was toe in the water stuff. the earlier days saw some of the all time great Cuban cigars - cohiba in 03 and 04. and others. have neither followed nor bought them for quite a few years. still have a few and smoke them occasionally. now many are ten, fifteen, even twenty years old and can be brilliant. 

[Dadof3]

6 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said:

You're not wrong, but IMO there have been some classics out of both programs. It does make you wonder, could Habanos use these tobaccos in their regular line up? Sure, but they're doing what a lot of industries are doing. And that's using the "best" of what they make to get more profit. Good tobacco goes into higher priced offerings. Good grapes, into more expensive wines and to borrow from the tech world, CPU's that perform better than others at higher sustained speeds get a markup too. Even though they are the exact same CPU. It's called "binning". This is what marketing does.  

You don't have to buy them, you can be just fine with regular production. For me though, I've been more pleased than disappointed in both programs. 

I think that’s my question. Is there any real difference in the quality of the tobacco? For years we’ve heard about the extra fermentation of Cohiba. But we understand that the central processing ferments and ages all the other tobacco the same way. We pay similar top dollar for regular Trinidads but do we have any idea what makes them special? I guess you can chose what you think is the “best” stuff but it seems pretty speculative to me.  

[bmac]

8 hours ago, Havanaaddict said:

So what do you think about Edicion Limitada Cigars? I think they definitely have their place!!

How often do you smoke one? I will smoke one every month or so, just to wake up my palate. The richness and sweetness of the maduro wrapper makes me look for more of those flavors in my normal rotation!

Which one is your favorite? Cohiba Talismán, Montecristo Supremos, Ramón Allones Club Allones, Partagás Selección Privada. 

Thanks for being more specific🤓

[JohnS]

What do I think of the Limited Edition program? It's no longer fit for purpose. Until 2020, the last time I remember members on our forum extolling the virtues of the three 2019 releases (i.e. the Montecristo Supremos, Quai d'Orsay Senadores and the Ramon Allones No.2), the program was fine, but after the Covid-19 pandemic affected the production of Habanos cigars and Cigarmageddon happened in mid-2022, you can't say it's been anywhere near the same since. As an example, who here has sampled a post-2020 Limited Edition cigar as listed below? 

2020 - Partagás Legados
2021 - Bolívar Regentes, Cohiba 55 Aniversario and Hoyo de Monterrey Monterreyes No.4
2024 - H. Upmann Magnum Finite, Ramón Allones Absolutos and Trinidad Cabildos
2025 - Montecristo Elba, Punch Princesas.

I'd say some of us have. However, if this question was posted five or six years ago on our forum, the answers would have been quite different. I'd envisage that there would have been more of an enthusiastic response.

As for me, I can only reminisce of the glory days and releases which I've been fortunate to sample. 2015 H.Upmann Magnum 56 LE or a 2016 Trinidad Topes LE anyone?

[Darco]

9 hours ago, Dadof3 said:

I think that’s my question. Is there any real difference in the quality of the tobacco? For years we’ve heard about the extra fermentation of Cohiba. But we understand that the central processing ferments and ages all the other tobacco the same way. We pay similar top dollar for regular Trinidads but do we have any idea what makes them special? I guess you can chose what you think is the “best” stuff but it seems pretty speculative to me.  

The short answer is yes.

Earlier, prices of ELs ERs were very close to regular production and hence you shouldn’t expect a superior quality...what you are getting is either the same flavor in a different size (ERs) or similar flavors plus a dark wrapper. Some however are experimental and have a different mix, meaning they will either be better or worse than regulars, and since regulars are decades old flavor mixes, it is more likely that they will be inferior than regulars, except a minority that we are all chasing all the time.  

Now I believe the system is different because of the high price margin in premium releases (that also include recent LCDH) and I can see that more of the better tobacco harvests go to those, at the expense of regular production! 

[El Hoze]

I have zero interest in ELs these days. ERs I very much enjoy. They’ve had some banger ER cigars throughout the program, many very good ones, and I do like the whole unique creation aspect. Good complement to the RP lines. 

[BrightonCorgi]

Smoked a Club Allones yesterday. Nice change of pace. ELs need at least a decade to shine IMO.

[Lucas Buck]

Big fan. I bought almost all of them for the first ten years or so then was more selective based on marca and vitola for the next ten. Since 2019 I’ve acquired very few and am now priced out. I will pay a premium for my favorite cigars as the value is there but the crazy EL prices are well out of range for me now. If I’m gonna splurge it’s going to be Cohiba, ER, Maestra etc. The EL glory days are over. 
 

So what do you think about Edicion Limitada Cigars? I have loved them from day one  

How often do you smoke one? I probably average about one a month as stocks are slim on all but a few.  I do occasionally go on a jag where I’ll smoke several in short order.

Which one is your favorite? Partagas Piramides, Cohiba Piramides, Montecristo DC, Partagas SD3, Cohiba DC, RyJ Hermosos 2, Trinidad Ingenios, Allones Extra, Monte 520.

[pohlmad]

This post made me excited to try the Monte Supremos that I probably haven’t had in 2 years. In short, this was smoking incredible!  Smoked on a dog walk after a BR Dalios and this was perfectly constructed, great burn and smoke output (even outdoors), and was truly like a desert!  If you have them, I encourage you to get one out and smoke it!

[mikec]

I actually really enjoyed the Legados quite a bit. Even picked up an extra box to lay down.

[tbelle7]

Price aside - I've never had a "bad" one. Many have been spectacular. I don't understand all the hate directed at them across various forums.

How often do you smoke one? One a week

Which ones are your favorite? Talisman, 1966, 55th, MC Sublimes

[Dadof3]

1 hour ago, tbelle7 said:

Price aside - I've never had a "bad" one. Many have been spectacular. I don't understand all the hate directed at them across various forums.

How often do you smoke one? One a week

Which ones are your favorite? Talisman, 1966, 55th, MC Sublimes

Hate is a strong word. My criticism has been that I am skeptical there is anything objectively superior to the EL to justify the higher price. If you like them that’s great. The couple I have had were very good albeit they were not aged all that much. I have two resting now that are maybe going on 10 years. But given what we understand about Cuban tobacco processing, I am not sure these are even as special as the Cohiba tobacco which has that extra fermentation. I don’t doubt the wrappers are cleaner and smoother and maybe they let some of the leaves age a bit longer but the fermentation for all the Cuban tobacco is the same other than Cohiba from what has been reported. Still, like other limited edition products the scarcity has a value for those interested and certainly for collectors. I guess the shame is that they are never to be repeated. I’d suggest the best sellers should be made regular productions.  

[JohnS]

14 minutes ago, Dadof3 said:

I’d suggest the best sellers should be made regular productions.  

There has been instances whereby Limited Edition Releases were later reintroduced as regular production offerings. This includes the Montecristo Grand Edmundo, Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure Especial, H.Upmann Magnum 50 and the Trinidad Topes. There were even instances of Limited Editions been re-offered later on down-the-track, like the Cohiba Talisman and H.Upmann Magnum 56. (So technically, these ceased being 'Limited'.)

You'd have to think that all these examples would have been 'best sellers'.

[Justins123]

Call me a cynic, but this article is pretty damning. The first 3-4 years of LEs were widely panned as being unsmokable. They sat on shelves for years. Monte Cs for example were unsellable. No doubt things changed for the better at some point. 

[El Presidente]

I don't chase EL cigars. I am blessed to smoke them at all. 

Sometimes they just nail it. Regular rotation, no. Treat when they deserve it, yes.