Raiders...

[Ford2112]

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/16/nx-s1-5154883/tom-brady-las-vegas-raiders-owner-nfl

Woah!!!

[Woody Hayes]

Since he's your good buddy he'll probably throw ya some 50 yard line, field-level seats.

[El Presidente]

I like the Raiders and wish them well. I am not quite sure what their culture is these days. Hopefully Brady can add some value in that area.

[Ford2112]

13 hours ago, Woody Hayes said:

Since he's your good buddy he'll probably throw ya some 50 yard line, field-level seats.

If he was my good buddy I'd have bought everything on 24 24 yesterday 

[BigGuns]

I’ll take any help we can get at this point. This franchise is too important and critical to the league for it to be consistently in the state it is in. I hope this guy can contribute something valuable to the cause. 

[Ken Gargett]

8 hours ago, BigGuns said:

I’ll take any help we can get at this point. This franchise is too important and critical to the league for it to be consistently in the state it is in. 

oh please. cry me a river. think of us poor Washington fans. 30 years with a toxic dwarf offending every sector of the community. and the NFL did diddly. from NFL royalty to blind, crippled and homeless. 

when i worked in DC and started following them, i assumed that we would keep appearing in superbowls and playoffs. maybe not win them all but certainly more than our fair share. we would always have a trio of WRs, like monk, sanders and clark - i mean, why not? why wouldn't we do that? we'd have the best coach and staff in the competition. we'd have top players. we'd always be there. and Darryl Green would still be playing pro-bowl standard at 60. 

instead, we turned into a puss-filled, soulless, evil cesspit which overpaid for has-beens and wannabees, which had the most inept management ever perpetrated on a bunch of fans who deserved so much better, which lost the good players we had and could not attract even bog-average journeymen, which could not draft a beer, which found new ways to lose every week, which had a carousel of QBs that the browns might even envy, which were the easybeats and jokes of the NFL and which has been home to every coaching disaster who needed a last resort hotel. 

and you guys have had a couple of tough years. don't step on the violin on the way out. 

[BigGuns]

🤣 You feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest, @Ken Gargett??  Does the 1984 Super Bowl still sting?

 I’m not about to get into a pissing contest over who’s had it worse over the last couple decades, but I will give you that the Skins have definitely had a rough go, and Snyder even made the Davii look like competent owners. That said, I stand by my statement - the league is better served with the Silver and Black in the top tier. Same can be said about your boys. 

[Ken Gargett]

27 minutes ago, BigGuns said:

🤣 You feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest, @Ken Gargett??  Does the 1984 Super Bowl still sting?

 I’m not about to get into a pissing contest over who’s had it worse over the last couple decades, but I will give you that the Skins have definitely had a rough go, and Snyder even made the Davii look like competent owners. That said, I stand by my statement - the league is better served with the Silver and Black in the top tier. Same can be said about your boys. 

just having some fun. and yes, agree. there are some teams that the nfl really do need as strong (the iggles is not one of them). 

to be honest, i did not start following till later that decade. i had a friend from Colorado who was a broncos fanatic. still is. so i had to follow whoever it was they were playing in 87. even though i knew nothing about them. moved to DC a year or so later, purely by chance. 

in retrospect re 84, i think that they had knocked off the dolphins in 83 and so playing your mob was a bit of a let down. mind you, if you listen to any of the interviews from back then, in 83, they thought beating dallas to make the superbowl was a way bigger thing for them than beating miami. there was a lot of hatred between the teams back then. miami was a bonus. dallas was the prize. now it is just pity both ways. 

[wjs]

Grew up in San Diego (ex-Chargers fan) despising the Raiders. Now in Napa, my kids play soccer on ‘Raiders Field’ as they used to have training camp here and I met Brock Bowers, local kid (UGA/Raiders) and his dad at the gym a few times. So I’m conflicted but kinda sorta maybe not rooting against them anymore?

[BigGuns]

Welcome to the dark side, @wjs. Ironically, you’ve seen the light. 

[BoliDan]

18 hours ago, BigGuns said:

 

This image is cursed. 

[Chibearsv]

17 hours ago, BigGuns said:

the league is better served with the Silver and Black in the top tier.

What's your reasoning for this or how do you define "top tier"?  In terms of competing for the SB, it's been a long time since they were top tier. I think the fan base is set for teams like the Raiders, Bears, and Steelers. I'm not sure any amount of losing affects what they bring to the league.  

[BigGuns]

Perhaps it’s my unwavering, and arguably sometimes delusional, dedication to this team and franchise. That said, this is a historical franchise with few piers (you’ve named two of them). John Madden, Al Davis, Lyle Alzado, Jim Plunket, Upshaw, Stabler, Howie Long, Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen, Woodson….iconic figures in the history of the sport, not just the Raiders, that deserve to have a formidable team on the field every week. 

Just like when the Lakers and (I hate myself for acknowledging this) Celtics are at the top of the standings, the NBA is better off, so goes the NFL with the Raiders (and perhaps a few others). 

Hell, the world is a better place when the Raiders are winning. 

[KCCubano]

6 hours ago, BigGuns said:

Perhaps it’s my unwavering, and arguably sometimes delusional, dedication to this team and franchise. That said, this is a historical franchise with few piers (you’ve named two of them). John Madden, Al Davis, Lyle Alzado, Jim Plunket, Upshaw, Stabler, Howie Long, Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen, Woodson….iconic figures in the history of the sport, not just the Raiders, that deserve to have a formidable team on the field every week. 

Just like when the Lakers and (I hate myself for acknowledging this) Celtics are at the top of the standings, the NBA is better off, so goes the NFL with the Raiders (and perhaps a few others). 

Hell, the world is a better place when the Raiders are winning.

They are in a bad place because Mark Davis has patches on both eyes and has no vision

[rckymtn22]

On 10/17/2024 at 1:38 PM, BigGuns said:

I’ll take any help we can get at this point. This franchise is too important and critical to the league for it to be consistently in the state it is in. I hope this guy can contribute something valuable to the cause. 

Looks like Jim Carey from Dumb and Dumber. Nice hair cut… 💇 

[Ken Gargett]

On 10/19/2024 at 2:04 AM, BigGuns said:

Perhaps it’s my unwavering, and arguably sometimes delusional, dedication to this team and franchise. That said, this is a historical franchise with few piers (you’ve named two of them). John Madden, Al Davis, Lyle Alzado, Jim Plunket, Upshaw, Stabler, Howie Long, Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen, Woodson….iconic figures in the history of the sport, not just the Raiders, that deserve to have a formidable team on the field every week. 

Just like when the Lakers and (I hate myself for acknowledging this) Celtics are at the top of the standings, the NBA is better off, so goes the NFL with the Raiders (and perhaps a few others). 

Hell, the world is a better place when the Raiders are winning. 

 

i know exactly what you mean (although swap Washington for raiders, of course). has the NFL ever been better than those years that the NFC East was all-conquering? the rivalries - wash v dallas, wash v giants, dallas v giants. almost as though they decided they'd take it in turns to win the superbowl.

and yes, the 49ers were also in it. games among any of those four teams back then, you'd walk ten miles over broken glass to see. now? until brady and the pats (who were bottom rung jokes back then) got involved and stuffed things up, it seemed that the superbowl was the birthright of the NFC and more specifically, the NFC East. 

[GavLew79]

On 10/19/2024 at 3:04 AM, BigGuns said:

Perhaps it’s my unwavering, and arguably sometimes delusional, dedication to this team and franchise. That said, this is a historical franchise with few piers (you’ve named two of them). John Madden, Al Davis, Lyle Alzado, Jim Plunket, Upshaw, Stabler, Howie Long, Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen, Woodson….iconic figures in the history of the sport, not just the Raiders, that deserve to have a formidable team on the field every week. 

Just like when the Lakers and (I hate myself for acknowledging this) Celtics are at the top of the standings, the NBA is better off, so goes the NFL with the Raiders (and perhaps a few others). 

Hell, the world is a better place when the Raiders are winning. 

Don't forget Rich Gannon! 😁

I live in the UK, so watching NFL is challenging (normally during sleepy time), so I can't always stay up to date, but have loved the Raiders since I was a toddler. At 5 years old I knew the '84 LA Olympics was in the Raiders' stadium, the colosseum. 

I also, hope things get better. I'd love to see them return to the heights of Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson in the running game, Jerry Rice (after the 9'ers), the other 81, er Tim something? Tim Brown? Hazy memory. 

We can't seem to run. Minshew keeps getting sacked due to a poor offensive line, and the guy who replaced him has a better arm, but still the O-line let's him down. 

We've got some *great* players; Myers, Crosby, Bowers, and a great special teams. Just need cohesion.