El Presidente Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I know there are plenty in the cigar world who detest the term NC (Non Cuban) almost as much as the term "New World" cigars. I am not sure if I coined it or I have inadvertently appropriated it, but I am getting very comfortable calling them FWC - Free World Cigars. The FW part might be a touch rickety in some parts .......but overall it manages to paint a nice visual...and sink the boot ....at the same time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnov Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Free World Cigars sounds way too USA or a prominent auditor for my liking. You've had at least a couple of good ideas over the years but I'm not convinced by this one yet. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeguerosMAN Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Free World Cigar sounds like a good marketing tool especially these days as the Cuban government constantly persecute their own citizens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SirVantes Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 No. the globe is not divided into 'worlds'. The New World arose from the age of exploration, when there were lands unknown, which is no longer the case. Grandiosity much? Nicaragua - free? Where would you put Chinese cigars? Ask why the persistence of the shorthand distinction between Cuban and non-Cuban? Is it like the old way of referring to 'non-French champagne'? Seems like a 'smart' way to get around non-Cubans not always being puros, and therefore not always open to single geographic labels. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Half Full Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Guess I'm not understanding what's the problem with "NC." Yes, it uses CC as a reference point (just as @SirVantes pointed out about non-French champagne, but in the end all sparkling made outside of the Champagne region is not called Champagne, right?). In my experience, the only ones who use the terms "CC" and "NC" are those who have experience with Cuban cigars. At the same time, acquaintances who have only ever had NCs have never heard of either term. Given who uses the terms, and what it signifies to them, I have no problem with CC and NC. Why change it if it works? Just my 2 cents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avitus Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Definitely inspired by Freedom fries 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquito Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 NC works for me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Japan Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 When you smoke you smoke one cigar so : Cuban Cigars Honduras Cigar Nicaragua Cigars Brazil Cigar Italian Cigar Dominican Cigar etc 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I agree with Mr Japan 100% just keep it simple. There is no science to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzboypro Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I've always used NC and CC and I will keep doing so. Don't see the point of using "New World Cigars" and/or "Free World Cigars". Nothing new about the other countries and free world is debatable in some countries outside of Cuba currently producing cigars. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helix Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 NC covers it nicely. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalBikeRide Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Personally, I don’t have an issue with new world / non Cuban. It aligns with wine and some of the downsides noted above, yes, but I also think it acknowledges the history - and in turn - the role that Cuba has played in the now widespread production of cigars around the world. A huge number of new world / non-Cuban producers have Cuban heritage or lineage in some form. If they are the new world, then the old world is their parents, their grandparents and so on. I don’t read it as derogatory. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Country specific when it needs to be. The traditional split in styles are Caribbean vs. European cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chibearsv Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 4 hours ago, SirVantes said: The New World arose from the age of exploration, when there were lands unknown, which is no longer the case. I've never understood why non-Cubans are called "new world". Wasn't Cuba and DR discovered at basically the same moment? And Nicaragua and Honduras very shortly thereafter? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 21 hours ago, El Presidente said: I know there are plenty in the cigar world who detest the term NC (Non Cuban) While I'm sure you interact with a lot more people than I do I've never come across anyone who feels this way. 15 hours ago, Chibearsv said: I've never understood why non-Cubans are called "new world" Same here. Never figured that one out. There aren't even any "old world" cigars. Tobacco came back with Columbus! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeguerosMAN Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 How does "alt cigars" sound? An alternative to Cubans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmac Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!” - Sigmund Freud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn4212 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Same here. Never figured that one out. There aren't even any "old world" cigars. Tobacco came back with Columbus! I always assumed the term came from the idea of Cuban Cigar producing families leaving Cuba and seeking refuge in what to them was a "New World". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Shawn4212 said: I always assumed the term came from the idea of Cuban Cigar producing families leaving Cuba and seeking refuge in what to them was a "New World". That would leave La Aurora out as they've been Dominican puros since 1912. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Last time I checked Nicaragua was a dictatorship... New World cigars is nonsensical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helix Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn4212 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 1:49 PM, NSXCIGAR said: That would leave La Aurora out as they've been Dominican puros since 1912. You would be hard pressed to find a DR Puro in their line up. I think there is one. I also don't think the founder of LA Aurora is of Cuban decent. I could be wrong. But either way the point I'm making, is simply, I always thought that was how that term would be used or make sense to some. Personally I don't care if people say FWC, NC, New World etc. It's just a way for CC enthusiasts to differentiate CC vs cigars made elsewhere to me. Nothing more, nothing less. Certainly not something I need to dig into just so I have a reason to be upset over it. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzboypro Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/4/2024 at 11:51 AM, VeguerosMAN said: How does "alt cigars" sound? An alternative to Cubans. Why this sudden need to find a new naming for NCs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeguerosMAN Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 9 hours ago, jazzboypro said: Why this sudden need to find a new naming for NCs? Just throwing it out there if there is going to be a name change. I personally don't mind NCs. I noticed most of European Cigar influencers use the term New World cigars to be more politically correct imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzboypro Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 8 hours ago, VeguerosMAN said: Just throwing it out there if there is going to be a name change. I personally don't mind NCs. I noticed most of European Cigar influencers use the term New World cigars to be more politically correct imo. Is there suppose to be a name change? Is it required? Influencers...do we need them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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