Gyros with white sauce?

[ha_banos]

Pro'lly happened in Aus...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3DL7VpLGzi/?igsh=OWMyYjB4ZGlxYjYy

White sauce .. o malakas ..

[Arabian]

imagine sending him to buy this...

[Ford2112]

Never piss off the Greeks! Haha .Tzatziki is one of the best things on earth, in a taverna, with horta, fava and meat!! Can't wait to get back there.

[ha_banos]

10 hours ago, Arabian said:

imagine sending him to buy this...

But this legit is white sauce. No idea wtf it actually is though...

[Fuzz]

10 hours ago, Ford2112 said:

Never piss off the Greeks! Haha .Tzatziki is one of the best things on earth, in a taverna, with horta, fava and meat!! Can't wait to get back there.

But is it really Greek?

Could it really just be the Greek/Turkish version of the Indian raita?

 

 

[ha_banos]

3 hours ago, Fuzz said:

But is it really Greek?

Could it really just be the Greek/Turkish version of the Indian raita?

Alexander probably took it East.

[Arabian]

At least the guy knew what he wanted to get, my issue is with random malaka trying to spread ketchup on Kebab/ Shawarma. That's blasphemy.

[Drguano]

[jay8354]

Where is Grk Jesus and why has he not step into this debate????

@JohnS

[jay8354]

On 2/8/2024 at 10:44 PM, Arabian said:

At least the guy knew what he wanted to get, my issue is with random malaka trying to spread ketchup on Kebab/ Shawarma. That's blasphemy.

with a Pepsi???

[JohnS]

7 hours ago, jay8354 said:

Where is Grk Jesus and why has he not step into this debate????

@JohnS

@ha_banos summed it up all nicely. When Alexander the Great decided to go east (and therefore not west, Julius Caesar did that about 300 years later), it all went Greek thereafter. Don't worry too much if it's Indian, Turkish or whatever. At the end of the day, it's all Greek! 😂

[Ford2112]

23 minutes ago, JohnS said:

@ha_banos summed it up all nicely. When Alexander the Great decided to go east (and therefore not west, Julius Caesar did that about 300 years later), it all went Greek thereafter. Don't worry too much if it's Indian, Turkish or whatever. At the end of the day, it's all Greek! 😂

Greek coffee. Which btw is rough hahah

[Fuzz]

4 hours ago, JohnS said:

@ha_banos summed it up all nicely. When Alexander the Great decided to go east (and therefore not west, Julius Caesar did that about 300 years later), it all went Greek thereafter. Don't worry too much if it's Indian, Turkish or whatever. At the end of the day, it's all Greek! 😂

Ahhh, are you sure? Some say it went the other way. Trade via the silk road brought raita to the Greeks, and in typical Mediterranean fashion, they stuffed up an Asian recipe.

[BoliDan]

8 hours ago, JohnS said:

@ha_banos summed it up all nicely. When Alexander the Great decided to go east (and therefore not west, Julius Caesar did that about 300 years later), it all went Greek thereafter. Don't worry too much if it's Indian, Turkish or whatever. At the end of the day, it's all Greek! 😂

Gyros is such a confusing topic to me. White sauce is clearly tzatziki. But Gyros in Greece are 100% pork. Gyros here are lamb. In Germany they are big on Doner, but what they call Doner... is actually gyros for us. Back when Greece and Turkey expelled Greek-Turks, and Turkey expelled Turk-Greeks (1923 I think), everything has gotten confusing. In the UK, Gyros are "Kebab", but its the Doner version. The Arabs call it Shawarma. Your explanation that it is "all Greek" actually makes sense, but I think you just declared war on everyone. 

If you didn't follow a thing I said, I understand... Hence my confusion. 

[ha_banos]

@BoliDan Is simple really. Kebab is a generic term like saying BBQ.

Gyros is the Greek term. The Cypriots will just look at you like . The Turks will give you a Doner. The Lebanese a Shawarma. The Indians, whatever they've got, you obviously don't have a clue.

Then there's souvlaki. And Souvla. And kontosouvli, and kokoretsi. Depending on which you ask a Greek/Cypriot you'll again get 🫡 or . Simples. 

13 hours ago, Ford2112 said:

Greek coffee. Which btw is rough hahah

Dude .. don't drink the dregs! Oh and needs a little sugar! I'm fact metrios. But not sweet. Otherwise I agree, without sugar, rough.

@Fuzz Alex, 320BC, Silky 1BC. Greeks even supervised the terracotta army build. Greeks took Tzatziki east and the Indians decided it didn't have spices. 😛 

[99call]

34 minutes ago, ha_banos said:

Gyros is the Greek term. The Cypriots will just look at you like . The Turks will give you a Doner. The Lebanese a Shawarma. The Indians, whatever they've got, you obviously don't have a clue.

Then there's souvlaki. And Souvla. And kontosouvli, and kokoretsi. Depending on which you ask a Greek/Cypriot you'll again get 🫡 or . Simples. 

Yeah...this it all well and good. But the real question is...is Sheftalia a kebab? or a meatball?

P.S. I used to work in a Greek restaurant and had to make thousands of these in the morning, often with a terrible hangovers...I'm still angry about it. Delicious though!

[ha_banos]

Now you've put the Tarama among the dips!! @99call I'm shocked that you were making sheftalies in your youth! These are only meant to be made by old Greek women! When they are on they are amazing. When not ... well not so great. I'm sure yours were amazing! The Cypriots never could get mince on the BBQ without wrapping it I guess! Fried they are keftedes, baked they are biftekia. So are they kebab, meatball or sausage? This war will wage forever I guess... 

I'm now starving. I'm IF at the moment, so no food till 1pm. So for lunch go get some sheftalies. You can thank Stef later.

Just don't ask for white sauce... ask for the pink one!

 

 

[99call]

1 hour ago, ha_banos said:

The Cypriots never could get mince on the BBQ without wrapping it I guess!

Ouch,  savage burn on the Cypriots...quite literally.

The trick we used to do was lay them all out in a deep oven try neatly, covered in foil,   slow and low for a while, to render off the majority of the fat from the caul. Then finish on the BBQ. 

Nothing worse, if someone stacks these tightly on a skewer, and serves them up, with will raw flobbery bits of caul that haven't seen the flame. 

 

[Arabian]

7 hours ago, BoliDan said:

Gyros is such a confusing topic to me. White sauce is clearly tzatziki. But Gyros in Greece are 100% pork. Gyros here are lamb. In Germany they are big on Doner, but what they call Doner... is actually gyros for us. Back when Greece and Turkey expelled Greek-Turks, and Turkey expelled Turk-Greeks (1923 I think), everything has gotten confusing. In the UK, Gyros are "Kebab", but its the Doner version. The Arabs call it Shawarma. Your explanation that it is "all Greek" actually makes sense, but I think you just declared war on everyone. 

If you didn't follow a thing I said, I understand... Hence my confusion. 

Some people confuse Shawarma with Kebab, Shawarma meat has to be shredded/ small pieces.  

While Kebab sandwich is a whole skewer 

And don't forget the legendary Shish Tawook Sandwich to make it even more confusing (meatball sandwich?)

 

 

[ha_banos]

46 minutes ago, Arabian said:

Some people confuse Shawarma with Kebab, Shawarma meat has to be shredded/ small pieces.  

While Kebab sandwich is a whole skewer 

And don't forget the legendary Shish Tawook Sandwich to make it even more confusing (meatball sandwich?)

Now you're confusing everyone  Kebab = Kofte? Shish = meatball? No wonder the world is in perpetual conflict! lol

We need a regional translation table!

 

[99call]

40 minutes ago, ha_banos said:

Now you're confusing everyone  Kebab = Kofte? Shish = meatball? No wonder the world is in perpetual conflict! lol

We need a regional translation table!

Don't worry mate, I know that you're in the right.

[Arabian]

40 minutes ago, ha_banos said:

Now you're confusing everyone  Kebab = Kofte? Shish = meatball? No wonder the world is in perpetual conflict! lol

We need a regional translation table!

Would you like meatballs? I mean kofte 😁.  It's indeed very confusing, each region has its own recipe book. 

 

[ha_banos]

7 hours ago, Arabian said:

Would you like meatballs? I mean kofte 😁.  It's indeed very confusing, each region has its own recipe book. 

Which look like falafel! :rofl:

[99call]

7 hours ago, ha_banos said:

Which look like falafel! :rofl:

They look like really bad Içli köfte to me...whereas these look like the business.

[Arabian]

7 hours ago, 99call said:

They look like really bad Içli köfte to me,,,whereas these look like the business.

This goes by the name Kibbeh, in Lebanon many households/ restaurants serve Kibbeh Nayyeh (Raw Kibbeh) and it becomes something like this. Personally I wouldn't touch anything raw.