Where are all the Cuban cigars!? USA! Not China!

[ha_banos]

 

[Corylax18]

What a poorly researched excuse for a "story". Why would you spread this sort of thing on?

One story that's almost 15 years old is the best he could do for sourcing? Haha

The reality is China and the US have been the largest consumers of Cubans for over a decade now, that hasn't changed recently/post Pandemic.

The truth (which this guys spends about 3 seconds glossing over) is that there aren't many Cubans anywhere right now. The production numbers plummeted during the pandemic and haven't even started to recover yet. Tabacuba and HSA dont seem to be planning on any real recovery in quantities either. The current state of the Cigar market isn't the fault of  the US or Chinese cigar buyer (or any cigar buyer) its the fault of "communists" trying to play capitalist and F#$*ing it all up. 

[LigSecVol]

Is this guy for real? Nobody is "blaming" China. It's just reality.

Cuban stocks all over the world were pilling dust before China opened its doors in circa 2010. Everything started disappearing since then. COVID just made things worse.

Extrapolating that the US is #1 or 2 market in the world and/or that it would be the #1 WHEN the embargo end based on ONE article from 2009 based on the OPINION of ONE guy is irrelevant at laughable at best.

[ha_banos]

1 hour ago, Corylax18 said:

What poorly researched excuse for a "story". Why would you spread this sort of thing on?

One story that's almost 15 years old is the best he could do for sourcing? Haha

The reality is China and the US have been the largest consumers of Cubans for over a decade now, that hasn't changed recently/post Pandemic.

The truth (which this guys spends about 3 seconds glossing over) is that there aren't many Cubans anywhere right now. The production numbers plummeted during the pandemic and haven't even started to recover yet. Tabacuba and HSA dont seem to be planning on any real recovery in quantities either. The current state of the Cigar market isn't the fault of  the US or Chinese cigar buyer (or any cigar buyer) its the fault of "communists" trying to play capitalist and F#$*ing it all up. 

He goes to the production issues. Yes it's sensationalist. There's a lot of folk that don't know about the size of the US collections/market. A lot of noise is directed at China. There is a lot of history on both sides. He talks about talking to other people. He goes back to how out of date that post is!

[LigSecVol]

1 hour ago, ha_banos said:

He goes to the production issues. Yes it's sensationalist. There's a lot of folk that don't know about the size of the US collections/market. A lot of noise is directed at China. There is a lot of history on both sides. He talks about talking to other people. He goes back to how out of date today post is!

He misses the point completely. Cuban stocks have not started disappearing with COVID but about a decade ago before when China opened its door in circa 2010. It started slow and it accelerated in 2013-2015 until COVID hit and made it worse. 

[Fireball]

What an odd take.

[Ford2112]

What a jabroni

[Nevrknow]

He is correct. We all know who has all of the Siglo VI's. ( Poke Poke  LOL )

[Chibearsv]

2 minutes ago, Nevrknow said:

He is correct. We all know who has all of the Siglo VI's. ( Poke Poke  LOL )

A guy that’s got a nice beach house too? 😜

[SCgarman]

Doesn't Michael Jordan possess all the Upmann Sir Winstons on the planet? 😂

[Ford2112]

12 hours ago, SCgarman said:

Doesn't Michael Jordan possess all the Upmann Sir Winstons on the planet? 😂

Lusis

[Magnum Dongle]

8 hours ago, Ford2112 said:

What a jabroni

"You keep using this word jabroni, and it's... awesome!" I have long waited for the day this enters the regular vocabulary! 😤

[LizardGizmo]

15 hours ago, Ford2112 said:

Lusis

I've always wondered how many he has in his collection. 

[Ford2112]

44 minutes ago, LizardGizmo said:

I've always wondered how many he has in his collection. 

Same. And what aged stock he has. Same with Arnie. Or any of those people with more money than they can spend.

[SCgarman]

40 minutes ago, Ford2112 said:

Same. And what aged stock he has. Same with Arnie. Or any of those people with more money than they can spend.

They likely have more cigars than any one person needs. Same as some here. If you have several hundred boxes in your arsenal, you are just fine!

[ha_banos]

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/a-great-collector-9007#:~:text=Alex Wong is perhaps the,amassed close to 5%2C000 boxes.

 

I've now demanded Mitch to give me a tour of his ☺️