Fosgate Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Being a land lubber I prefer my feet on the ground far inland with a healthy respect for large predators that would love to eat me. Brown bears, Wolves, Mountain lions etc. I've always been fascinated by sharks as a kid and loved watching documentaries, reading books about them etc. Learned a little more about a few while snorkeling in the Philippines a few years back. So I stumble across this video shot in the Brother Islands of the Red Sea and my reactions went about like this. Oh sh$t its an Oceanic White Tip 9 Seconds in, it stops swimming, arches its back and glides in. "Oh, sh$t its and Oceanic White Tip coming in hot and aggressive It's instantly aggressive and everyone is pretty much like watching a fight happen in public. frozen on the spot. After the deed is done, I'm noticing something and go back through. I notice, not a single person has a bangstick (hotstick), spear gun or sharp pointy stick for protection. Anyway, I also found this article and what troubled me was this, they were going for deep water dive certifications. Ok, so they have a bunch of novices. And also they say they had seen 3 Oceanic White Tips the day before with no problems. Here's where I have questions. https://www.trackingsharks.com/brothers-islands-egypt-shark-attack-videographer-sets-the-record-straight/ Knowing how aggressive Oceanic sharks are and having a group of novices, why would you not brief everyone how to react and cluster together if they see another one? Clearly everyone stayed spread out so doubtful than any such advise happened. Another, if you in charge of a group of novices swimming around, Bull, Tiger or Oceanic, Why would you not have designated safety diver with something to ward off a shark should it become aggressive with at least a sharp pointy stick and immediately swims in. The first novice the shark approached could have been the one that lost his calf. Is there not a certain level of responsibility the dive master in charge has to protect the students? Like I said, I'm a land lubber. Could someone with some dive experience chime in? Seems to me this could have easily been avoided. Whenever I go over into areas with big land predators with friends I carry protection and advise my friends that have never had an encounter, how to react if we encounter any of them. 2
Fuzz AI Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 The trick is to look the least tasty of the group. When helping your dive buddy put on his scuba tank, rub the back of his wet suit with barbecue sauce. Honestly, no matter what you do, you're always going to look like packaged meal to a shark. You're in their environment. Nobody comes into your house and pokes you with a pointy stick when you're having dinner, so why should you do the same to the shark? 2
Corylax18 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 I've been in the water with, literally, countless blacktips sharks before. During the ocean dive's I did off the North Shore of Oahu we got about 10 minutes of "Safety Instruction" as a 19 marine biology student screamed the rules at us over the din of the boat motor as we bounced over 4-6 swells (it was double overhead breaking perfect about 2 miles down the shore at sunset beach). I didn't pick up much of it. They taught us a few hand signals so we could communicate underwater and some basic "body language" of the sharks. I was less than 2 meters away from 3 meter + black tips, for over an hour, on two separate occasions and never felt nervous. Honestly, I felt oddly calm, very clam. The sharks are like ghosts as they come and go. It can be mesmerizing. Google "oneoceandiving.com" they run an amazing operation. My point is, it can be done safely. The company owner/dive leader/perfect woman that I went with Free Dives with Great Whites regularly and she still has all 4 appendages. Here is footage of her diving with/touching the largest nown Great white in existence in the same spot I dove with her, just north of Oahu. 1
Edicion Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Everyone there was looking at this shark like we are watching the video. You can see signals sent out by the shark that it was way too interested or agitated. Tail flick, rapid movements, approaches to people. Lots of signs that people should get out of the water or group.
Jack Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Very impressive, but I'm completely flummoxed by the term "on film".
Monocle Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Corylax18 said: I've been in the water with, literally, countless blacktips sharks before. During the ocean dive's I did off the North Shore of Oahu we got about 10 minutes of "Safety Instruction" as a 19 marine biology student screamed the rules at us over the din of the boat motor as we bounced over 4-6 swells (it was double overhead breaking perfect about 2 miles down the shore at sunset beach). I didn't pick up much of it. They taught us a few hand signals so we could communicate underwater and some basic "body language" of the sharks. I was less than 2 meters away from 3 meter + black tips, for over an hour, on two separate occasions and never felt nervous. Honestly, I felt oddly calm, very clam. The sharks are like ghosts as they come and go. It can be mesmerizing. Google "oneoceandiving.com" they run an amazing operation. My point is, it can be done safely. The company owner/dive leader/perfect woman that I went with Free Dives with Great Whites regularly and she still has all 4 appendages. Here is footage of her diving with/touching the largest nown Great white in existence in the same spot I dove with her, just north of Oahu. That’s incredible! Noble giants if you ask me. 1
El Presidente Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 ...they make great watch straps...... 2 2
NSXCIGAR Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 14 hours ago, Jack said: I'm completely flummoxed by the term "on film" This might clarify things:
Chibearsv Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 22 hours ago, Corylax18 said: I've been in the water with, literally, countless blacktips sharks before. During the ocean dive's I did off the North Shore of Oahu we got about 10 minutes of "Safety Instruction" as a 19 marine biology student screamed the rules at us over the din of the boat motor as we bounced over 4-6 swells (it was double overhead breaking perfect about 2 miles down the shore at sunset beach). I didn't pick up much of it. They taught us a few hand signals so we could communicate underwater and some basic "body language" of the sharks. I was less than 2 meters away from 3 meter + black tips, for over an hour, on two separate occasions and never felt nervous. Honestly, I felt oddly calm, very clam. The sharks are like ghosts as they come and go. It can be mesmerizing. Google "oneoceandiving.com" they run an amazing operation. My point is, it can be done safely. The company owner/dive leader/perfect woman that I went with Free Dives with Great Whites regularly and she still has all 4 appendages. Here is footage of her diving with/touching the largest nown Great white in existence in the same spot I dove with her, just north of Oahu. Would the shark be attracted or deterred after I shit myself? 1 1
Corylax18 Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, Chibearsv said: Would the shark be attracted or deterred after I shit myself? I'm guessing you've seen shark week. What happens when they "chum the water"? 1
Fosgate Posted January 26, 2022 Author Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 1:31 PM, Corylax18 said: I've been in the water with, literally, countless blacktips sharks before. During the ocean dive's I did off the North Shore of Oahu we got about 10 minutes of "Safety Instruction" as a 19 marine biology student screamed the rules at us over the din of the boat motor as we bounced over 4-6 swells (it was double overhead breaking perfect about 2 miles down the shore at sunset beach). I didn't pick up much of it. They taught us a few hand signals so we could communicate underwater and some basic "body language" of the sharks. I was less than 2 meters away from 3 meter + black tips, for over an hour, on two separate occasions and never felt nervous. Honestly, I felt oddly calm, very clam. The sharks are like ghosts as they come and go. It can be mesmerizing. Google "oneoceandiving.com" they run an amazing operation. My point is, it can be done safely. The company owner/dive leader/perfect woman that I went with Free Dives with Great Whites regularly and she still has all 4 appendages. Here is footage of her diving with/touching the largest nown Great white in existence in the same spot I dove with her, just north of Oahu. That's not a shark. That's a school bus with teeth! 4 hours ago, Chibearsv said: Would the shark be attracted or deterred after I shit myself? I know you don't want to shit yourself around a land predator. Best to be scent free. Throws out wicked scent and they instantly attracted to you. Wolves, Coyotes will often tear open the a-hole of an Elk or Deer while it's still alive. You don't even what to wash your hair in any scented floral/fruit or other scented soaps when going out in the wild especially in brown bear territory. I'd imagine ocean predators would react similar. I think I'd take Fuzz's advise. You just need to be faster than your buddy on land, buy them some heavy bulky boots while you wear slick waterproof running shoes. Maybe give your pal the bright yellow swim fins that are maybe 4 inches long while you take the 2 foot long fins. 1 1
Miguel Gracias Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 I've done shark divings in mexico, japan and florida... dive master usually brief that divers should stay with the group and do not turn back when you are facing shark. Other than florida, I couldn't see dive master or other divers using any protection like spear. 1
Fosgate Posted February 3, 2022 Author Posted February 3, 2022 WOW! Just ran across this one. Cool to see several moving in quickly once they realize and the one diver but have brass balls!
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