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I have noticed a change in flavour between 63 % and 73%. Is it just me or do cigars taste different according to humidity. Thanks

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Absolutely. For me Cubans get more and more bitter above 63%

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+1. Right at my sweet spot 62-64. Don’t even need to drybox ready to burn


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32 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Yes, and don't let @PigFish see that your rH fluctuates between 63-73%. :surprised:

I have three humidors, one is at 73% because I live in the desert and cigars that I will smoke within a few weeks I put in there . We run between 1% and 15%rh in the summer. 

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1 hour ago, Viva Vegas said:

I have three humidors, one is at 73% because I live in the desert and cigars that I will smoke within a few weeks I put in there . We run between 1% and 15%rh in the summer. 

Ah, gotcha.

I would say 73% is awfully high at temps less than about 90 deg, and that brings its own set of problems. That cigar is going to have a lot of moisture and I would at least expect some poor combustion at that rH. And of course it could certainly affect flavor. 

Based on some recent discussions it's my conclusion that rarely if ever should rH exceed high 60s at anything close to realistic room temps. Again, I've begun looking at@PigFish's 70/61 as an ideal ratio, meaning it would take a pretty high temp to need an rH above 70.

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25 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Ah, gotcha.

I would say 73% is awfully high at temps less than about 90 deg, and that brings its own set of problems. That cigar is going to have a lot of moisture and I would at least expect some poor combustion at that rH. And of course it could certainly affect flavor. 

Based on some recent discussions it's my conclusion that rarely if ever should rH exceed high 60s at anything close to realistic room temps. Again, I've begun looking at@PigFish's 70/61 as an ideal ratio, meaning it would take a pretty high temp to need an rH above 70.

In the summer it's up to 117 out here and dry. I will take a cigar out of the humidor 63% and 65 degrees lightly spray with distilled water and smoke it. If not sprayed it will crack before I am done smoking it.

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5 minutes ago, Viva Vegas said:

In the summer it's up to 117 out here and dry. I will take a cigar out of the humidor 63% and 65 degrees lightly spray with distilled water and smoke it. If not sprayed it will crack before I am done smoking it.

Wow, so the cigars are being stored indoors at >100°? That's an extremely high temp obviously and not one that I would consider suitable for long-term storage. But yes, 73% rH would not be excessive for those ambient temps I suppose.

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7 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Wow, so the cigars are being stored indoors at >100°? That's an extremely high temp obviously and not one that I would consider suitable for long-term storage. But yes, 73% rH would not be excessive for those ambient temps I suppose.

No that is the smoking temp, storage temp aprox 65 degrees .

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Just now, Viva Vegas said:

No that is the smoking temp, storage temp aprox 65 degrees .

Ok. Well, I would say that the filler of the cigar isn't going to lose humidity that quickly even at 110° and there's not much you can do about the wrapper losing moisture. You're in a tough spot but I would probably dial the rH down a few clicks just to insure flavors and combustion aren't compromised.

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7 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Ok. Well, I would say that the filler of the cigar isn't going to lose humidity that quickly even at 110° and there's not much you can do about the wrapper losing moisture. You're in a tough spot but I would probably dial the rH down a few clicks just to insure flavors and combustion aren't compromised.

Thank you , I will try it at 70% at 65 degrees and see how it goes. Brian

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In the summer it's up to 117 out here and dry. I will take a cigar out of the humidor 63% and 65 degrees lightly spray with distilled water and smoke it. If not sprayed it will crack before I am done smoking it.

Just run them under regular tapwater for a few seconds. Check youtube for a quick tutorial.

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On 8/4/2020 at 10:43 PM, Viva Vegas said:

No that is the smoking temp, storage temp aprox 65 degrees .

I do think that smoking damage is caused by too much water in the core of your cigars. As you heat up the cigar and it expands, the dryer wrapper cannot take the expansion of your wet core. IMHO you should not try to store cigars @65F when dealing with these high temp ambients. Some people use the practice, storing cold. Even our host. They have their reasons. None of them work in a 'ready to smoke' environment that I prefer.

Some people can taste water (what water does) to taste in a cigar. I cannot speak for everyone... One is missing the true nuance of what a CC can be by smoking it in a 'too wet' state. All MHO...

Cheers! -Piggy

 

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On 8/5/2020 at 1:25 AM, Viva Vegas said:

In the summer it's up to 117 out here and dry. I will take a cigar out of the humidor 63% and 65 degrees lightly spray with distilled water and smoke it. If not sprayed it will crack before I am done smoking it.

Quick rinse of the cigar in under faucet won't harm the cigar.  Just not into the foot.  Takes off some of the harshness too if there is any

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On 8/6/2020 at 6:26 AM, PigFish said:

I do think that smoking damage is caused by too much water in the core of your cigars. As you heat up the cigar and it expands, the dryer wrapper cannot take the expansion of your wet core. IMHO you should not try to store cigars @65F when dealing with these high temp ambients. Some people use the practice, storing cold. Even our host. They have their reasons. None of them work in a 'ready to smoke' environment that I prefer.

Some people can taste water (what water does) to taste in a cigar. I cannot speak for everyone... One is missing the true nuance of what a CC can be by smoking it in a 'too wet' state. All MHO...

Cheers! -Piggy

 

What’s your recommendation for 80-84 ambient? 

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