Irreversible Damage to a Cigar

[Kierkegaard]

I finally got myself 2 boxes of cigars, one ERDM Demi Tasse, one of Choix Supremes, now I am waiting a till New Year's Eve to smoke one... As I was inspecting them anxiously, in constant fear as to whether or not they will be good, I was wondering, from past experience of all the terrible cigars I have smoked, what could they do to a cigar that would prevent it from ever coming back, even after a year in good humidity conditions?

 

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[El Presidente]

Less thinking. More smoking. 

 

 

[99call]

4 hours ago, Kierkegaard said:

anxiously

This definitely comes across in your writing, and I know you've mentioned in previous posts that anxiety in general, is a difficulty. 

I would let all the stress just melt away, this is exactly what smoking cigars is for!!!  No box ever comes with a promise written on the side of "these are, and will always be great cigars".  

If you have extremely high standards, and only get enjoyment from 5 out of 100 cigars, thats really unfortunate and I feel for you.   I probably really enjoy 95 out of 100 cigars, Are they all excellent? no, some ok, some are good, and some are fantastic. 

In short, is sounds as if your trying to be so exact and precise about the passion of smoking cigars, that you may actually be making it less enjoyable for yourself. 

I would definitely follow Robs advice, try to not have any expectations of the cigars, simply smoke them, relax and enjoy

[Akela3rd]

David - Glad to see you got your cigars, now just put them away and forget about them til 2019. Let them, and your mind, rest. Worrying about them won't change a thing.

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[BrightonCorgi]

If they are way too tight, you're f'd...  

[Gusmab980]

Just smoke one if you don’t like them set them aside and don’t touch them again in a while.

Just because you don’t like one doesn’t mean the whole box is gonna be bad.

Patience is a virtue In the cigar world.

[MD Puffer]

Try Klonopin in the meantime...

 

[LGC]

Try some deep breathing exercises

[MD Puffer]

3 hours ago, crking3 said:

That’s not very funny man ....prescription drug epidemic is absolutely horrible right now for ppl and families


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And how do you know that it's not a perfectly appropriate choice for him- particularly given it's long half life, incredibly high therapeutic index, and the fact that he's reports distressing levels of anxiety on a global internet forum?  

[LGC]

And how do you know that it's not a perfectly appropriate choice for him- particularly given it's long half life, incredibly high therapeutic index, and the fact that he's reports distressing levels of anxiety on a global internet forum?  

I agree. Chronic anxiety and depression issues can be successfully treated with medication , when nothing else works.

[PigFish]

Mate, you might find some relief in changing your mindset. No, your mindset will not change a crap cigar to a good one, or vice versa, but it may help you some with how you feel and deal with cigars unsmoked.

Stop with your prejudices about them! How I intend you to take this, is stop looking at all the cigars in a box as equals. This does not mean that all in a box might not be garbage, or might not be great, what it means is that in all likelihood there will be mix of some good and some bad and some average. This site is full of advice on up-averaging the smoking experience (so I won't bore you with that here yet again).

So as you look at your box(es) of cigars, don't view them as the dances that you must take your sister to because you don't have a date (metaphorically speaking). Look at each one as a beautiful woman... (or whatever your taste may be...) one that is new, intriguing and mystifying, not a known unhappy unpleasant, or obligatory affair. Let her be who she is. If she is a dud, take her home early and move on. If not enjoy the date.

Viewing the whole box as bad before the proof is prejudice. You may be right, and you may be wrong, but you still don't know until you light them up. You might as well consider each one a winning lotto ticket instead of a loser! One bad one does not make them any worse than one good one makes them better!

I bitch a lot about Cuban cigar quality. So I understand you better perhaps than some others. I don't like a lot of newer crap that I am smoking. However that does not stop me from choosing another, enjoying another, or voicing my displeasure about the first... The key is understanding. Then balance the risk with the reward (based on some experience). If 5 out of 100 cigar is your level of enjoyment (a comment from another poster) evaluate what you might do different to change it.

I have an idea for you. Get some Partagas Chicos. If you don't like them, well they are cheap... and you have not lost much. They are short filler and they are therefore blended cigars. They are amazingly consistent, like cigarettes, because they are blended. They are not bad... If they were I would not smoke them. They are certainly not refined (generally) with a lot of nuance. But frankly, they are better than a lot of other Cuban cigars (newer ones), cheap and pretty reliable.

Cheers! -Piggy

PS: And for the record, I do believe that there are means to up-average your smoking experience. I have prejudices and they have proved to be of value to me. Prejudice and wisdom therefore can run hand-in-hand. If offered a Diplomaticos 1 or a Behike, I will take the Diplomaticos! That is a prejudice based decision. That does not make either cigar good or bad. It is just a means by which I try to choose the best of two cigars that are markedly different in appearance and potentially in taste.

[Akela3rd]

Post some pictures on the What's Your Latest CC purchase? thread and let the plaudits on your fine looking cigars soothe your anxieties.

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[Kierkegaard]

My apologies gentlemen over the use of the word "anxiously" which, indeed does come across a lot in my writing, both on the forum and otherwise... And yet, oh, and yet the point of this post was harmless... Just to quip, or rather more innocently, discuss the possible motives behind a whole box of cigars that for one year had not come to fruition, that was as bad and as stale as when they first arrived...(Even though I kept them in the same exact condition as what I usually enjoy).Cigars that fluctuated between the unassuming and harmless taste of air and the overly pungent one of an ashtray and tar... A box of Romeo y Julieta Churchills(a cigar I ordinarily love) that I forgot to mention, along with so many others that were vapid, irrelevant and a waste... Moreover I struggle to comprehend how they could inherently look and feel fine, but not have any soul in them.
It was certainly not in one's interest to shake up the whole agora, to bring on a debate regarding the efficiency of SSRIs or SNRIs... And inevitably, mental illness...
No, no, it was much, much more innocuous than that, the slightest touch of a wondering corner of my imagination and, of course, obsession that were just hinting at history repeating itself, though with different names and dates...
I would brush off the idea of prejudice as being rather extrinsically, as prejudice has no empirical roots, but instead point to experience. As much as one wishes to bring everything into its life with fresh eyes, with the ingenuity and curiousity of a toddler, it is quite difficult and idealistic. But I digress.
The point of this thread was purely cigar-related, as even in the few moments of bliss I had acquired , the cigars were just as bad as in my worst days...
In some way, gentleman, I feel a great gratitude for your concern, but not need to worry... Had I had no anxiety I couldn't write. Writing is my livelihood. Writing, a task that certainly requires a contact with the one's obsession, or monomania, for lack of a better word, and the void(in the form of anxiety). This gives me my minutiae...



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[99call]

Pick up some TOS box code  Por Larranaga Montecarlo,  they are super trust worthy, full or flavour, enjoyable very young & very old. 

[anjimj]

When in doubt dip your stick in water. 

[avaldes]

Makes me wonder about your storage conditions, if you have stored cigars for a year and they taste terrible.

[Habana Mike]

Let the monomania go brother! Enjoy your smokes for what they are....