gcman68 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 I am going to agree with the Illusione Epernay. I have always said I would love to throw them into a blind taste test mixed in with some Cubans and have people see if they can pick it out.
4wheelvfr Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 After smoking my first Illusione Epernay recently, I have to agree. Very good cigar.
Notsocleaver Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 The old release Illusione Singulare Phantom with about 5 years of age was as close to a Cohiba as I have ever had without being a Cohiba. This includes the Cuban custom rolls that are allegedly backdoor behikes. Age I think is the key. The pepper blast you get from a lot of Nicaraguans dies down after a few years and they start to seem more like fresh Cubans. If I'm looking for a cheap smoke at a US lounge, I always check to see if they have any old stock Don Pepin Black Labels laying around. With a bit of age they start to get a PSD4 vibe to them.
El Presidente Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 Corelius and Anthony Hamlet 25th Anniversary
kwsaw63 Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 Personally I find the Torano Exodus Silver Edition to be the most cubanesque of the NCs I’ve smoked. It reminds me of a SLR Regio with some sticks giving a hit of citrus just like a fresh Regio.
Philc2001 Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 My experience has been that most Domincan cigars wrapped in Connecticut shade are generally milder than most other NCs, and for the most part they have more nuanced, creamy, and milder flavors (i.e. less peppery) than most other NCs. The Griffins robusto is one I keep on hand, which you can buy on CB for about $3/cigar. It's not an everyday cigar, but a good yard gar for those that prefer Cubans. Then again, it's tough to beat the PLP, which are often available for $65/box.
pjansen Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, El Presidente said: Corelius and Anthony Hamlet 25th Anniversary El Prez, which Cornelius & Anthony smoked close to a CC? In the market for some good NC's.
Jimmy_jack Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 I’ll shine and Watped lines of cigars. Both have tobacco fron Estelli Nicaragua.
5thStarChicago Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 I think the general consensus here, and I personally agree, is that non-cc's with lighter shade wrappers (Ecuador Connecticut, lighter Nica rosado or habano) with NIcaraguan fillers (or some stronger Dominican) can hit closest to the general CC profile. Connecticut shade has a great natural sweetness that can echo Cuban wrapper and Nica fillers CAN bring in the complexity and round out the flavors. That pretty much includes Hamlet 25th (couldn't agree more, Prez), Illusione Epernay Singulare & ECCJ, Jaime Garcia Limited Edition 2012 and 10/50, some Davidoff, La Palina Goldies, Warped, Tatuaje (skinny gauges and the Tiff Cazadore, my current favorite cigar PERIOD), and a lot of cigars out of the Tabsa / Casa Fernandez factory. It's very easy to go too far on the spice in Nicaraguan tobacco but hey, different smokes for different folks. I love many CC's and non CC's and smoking both keeps the ol' palate awake and paying attention. That's what makes this hobby / passion so damn much fun. 1
helix Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 Lot of mention of Atabey's , never had one, they cost as much as Behikes !
sasserjp Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Quesada Reserva Privada and Seleccion Espana, both are dead ringers for CCs, tending to smoke like a love child of Upmann and Hoyo.
Lant63 Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Jas Sum Kral zlatno sonce Salmones One of the top three or four cigars I smoked all year. The only cigars that rivaled have been some MDO no 2, punch SSn1 and a Hoyo extravaganza book cigar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Wonmotyme Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Pricing from Atabey is mindblowing -- I've heard people compare them to Behikes. Can you comment on that?I’ve had it and it is nowhere close to Behike. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
SEJ Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 My first post on FOH ... hello FOHers (is FOHers the correct nomenclature?) The CC to NC comparison is a subject that really interests me and I read a lot of opinions that I strongly agree with. Most of all, if you regularly smoke CCs, some of the Connecticut Shade (CS) wrapped NCs will probably be the most enjoyable. The body level is similar to CCs although the flavors can be quite different. Examples include La Colmena, (aged) Cabaiguans especially the WCD, and Atabey (I am confident that Atabeys have CS wrappers). My favorite CS though is the Joel Sherman LE 75th Celebration. These offer a body level similar to CC Cohibas and Trinidads. Other NCs that enter my CC rotation are Tatuaje black label and the Havan IV Gorditos (aged long enough for the Nicaraguan pepper blast to die down, the Gorditos got much better after 5 years of age). I also occasionally crave a Maduro: NC maduros are much better that the few CC offerings in this category. I gravitate towards Liga Privada when I want a maduro. I will also say that I tend to enjoy stronger NCs A LOT less when I have been smoking CCs regularly. Examples are Padron and OpusX.
SEJ Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 On 2/24/2018 at 10:53 AM, dshapiro said: Another vote for Warped. I think L’Atelier is very cubanesque. Folks say Atabey is like a Behike but I’ve never smoked one and they are pricey. I just smoked a Behike and an Atabey back-to-back to compare them (Atabey then Behike). The packaging and the bands are very similar. Otherwise, they are quite dissimilar cigars. They are both very enjoyable cigars. Behike is at another level flavor- and body-wise. Atabey was superior construction-wise (one of the most meticulously rolled smokes I have had).
multi-useless Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 Good bump, this thread is a great read! On the one hand, I feel like CC and NC are such different animals that it's impossible to compare the 2. Twang just doesn't exist in NC, not that I've found anyway, and I was primarily an NC guy until recently. On the other hand, a good NC can be very well balanced, which is a "Cubanesque" factor to me, so to that end I'll agree with the La Commena and the Epernay, and will add - Warped La Hacienda, Curivari Achilles, and the Casa Fuente with the orange ribbon.
JoeyBones777 Posted May 18, 2024 Posted May 18, 2024 Resurrecting this thread for current updates. My list will follow but I'm curious to get everyone's current NC list that scratches the "Cubanesque" itch. My list continues to change and, I must say, I've not found anything that fills it exactly. To me, "Cubanesque", in its prime, is sweet confectionery flavors, zero burn retro, creamy smoke texture, smooth but very flavorful and sourdough twang. These are the closest I've found though no twang. - Oscar Valladares 2012 connecticut - Oscar Valladares 2012 barber pole - Illusione Epernay (this cigar used to have a nice floral sweetness that seems to have disappeared in some recent ones I've had but it's still quite good) - Atabey (pricey...too pricey but given the price of CC's now...) - Nudies (obviously) *There are a few cigars I want to try that sound like they might fit the bill: - Patoro Terre blanche - Byron 21st century - Martinique - Warped Nicotina If anyone has had these, what are your thoughts?
JoeyBones777 Posted May 18, 2024 Posted May 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Ford2112 said: Mofoh Robusto T Yeah, I agree. The Canonazo, as well, is the Nudies with the most Cubanesque profiles to me.
JoeyBones777 Posted May 19, 2024 Posted May 19, 2024 51 minutes ago, VeguerosMAN said: Recently, Oliva serie O. I'll give it a try. 1
mbflash80 Posted May 19, 2024 Posted May 19, 2024 Tried the Byron 21st century...its a few centuries away from being comparable to a Cuban cigar. 1
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