Vetteman Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 My dentist's (cool guy, smokes cigars, rides a Harley) wife went on a trip to Cuba with a licensed group. One day the guide took them to the Robaina farm where she purchased a bundle of farm cigars for her husband. He gave me one but I haven't smoke it yet. Today I got this text from him: I cut one open for the hell of it. Has an outer leaf wrapper. Has one inner binder leaf wrapper. Didn't think I found two binder leaves only one. Has some inside full length tobacco leaves but one deep inside leaf has filler bits and pieces rolled up in it for bulk. That doesn't seem right? Its obviously not a fake Cuban and one all the workers on the farm were smoking right as he rolled them.... Any thoughts? Anyone have experience with these farm smokes? Are they simply handmade short filler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 No pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I've seen torcedors use a little short leaf to fill out a few gaps to get a perfect roll. They typically use scrap leaf from the cigars they're rolling or even break up whole leafs to get what they need. May be just that which he observed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_jack Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I think it's common to throw in some scraps to fill it out. Wouldn't think much if it...unless loose stuff was falling all over. watch rollers when they are bunching. The will bunch entubado, tearing off the top and bottom of the bunch, then stuffing back into the bunch to fill it out. Sometimes they will grab small scraps from the table, almost like a drawer between them and the desk. They place these in the bunch as well. If you open it and it's like a philly blunt falling all over, then you can be concerned. Otherwise smoke and enjoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I really don't understand this mania of opening the cigars to examine the contents by people who don't have the knowledge allowing to deduce anything of what they find ... It's like opening the engine hood of a car when you don't know anything about mechanics… IMHO As other said, some scraps used to fill gaps is not uncommon in long filler cigars… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Smallclub said: I really don't understand this mania of opening the cigars to examine the contents by people who don't have the knowledge allowing to deduce anything of what they find Made popular I think by a Youtuber who racks up tens of thousands of views cutting open fake CCs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SCgarman Posted March 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, Hedgehog said: Made popular I think by a Youtuber who racks up tens of thousands of views cutting open fake CCs. He doesn't smoke Cubans, and claims to know nothing about them but claims to be an expert at deciding what is fake or genuine by cutting them apart. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_jack Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Not a fan of his show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLC Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 A few years ago went with a small group of guys and spent some time with Hirochi at the farm having a cigar, Espresso and chatting with him. Afterwards went into the house and bought some of his customs. They were still to this day some of the best customs I've had. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajgagnon Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The farmers often smoke some rustic cigars. I once had a groundskeeper give me a bale of cigars that were half long and half short filler. He said just smoke half! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeedubbya Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 hours ago, ajgagnon said: a bale of cigars I can't find seem to find on CCW how many cigars this technically is, but my mind imagines an ungodly amount!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcjs0101 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Hedgehog said: Made popular I think by a butthurt Youtuber who racks up tens of thousands of views cutting open fake CCs. Corrected. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Only way to know is to smoke it and find out. Cutting an apple to pieces will not tell you what the apple taste like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajgagnon Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Yeah, it was something like 50+ cigars. We made sure to help him out. The only thing was that some of them seem to have been rolled shortly after he or his wife put on the perfume. Clearly the home blend!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlohaStyle Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I would guess Robainas don't put as much care into the cigars they unload on the throngs of tourists jumping off the bus. Most have no clue what a good cigar is. To the real cigar enthusiasts that go privately, i'd bet you wouldn't find too much short filler if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabashcr Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Sounds like he wasted a good cigar by cutting it open. The Robaina name carries a certain reputation, and I don't think they'd risk that by selling shit cigars on their farm. Any short filler is most likely scrap from the other leaves they're using. It's still good tobacco. Ok, not the best they produce, but still pretty good. They're limited on how much of their crop they are allowed to keep for selling farm rolls to tourists. So it makes sense they wouldn't just throw out the scraps if they can be used to fill out other cigars. I'm sure it's a nice little secondary stream of cash for them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigar Surgeon Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 When you're bunching you break the bottom and top off and use the leaves to fill the cigar. It's quite possible what he's referring to is the broken pieces of long filler placed inside the cigar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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