Jimmy_jack Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 What will this mean if anything? Will there be changes? Will the Cuban govt soften its stance?
SinfullyPatient Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Only time will tell if this has the effect on the cigar market I'm not yet fully stocked for yet.
Pharmacovigilant Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Newsworthy, but meaningless in terms of global diplomacy, as well as for our purposes. 1
Pilsner14 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Pharmacovigilant said: Good riddance. Meaningless for our purposes. Ahhh.........ok. 2
bolivr Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Made it to 90 despite how many attempts on his life? 1
aes8 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 It didn't mean anything that last 3 x's he died 1
Popular Post LordAnubis Posted November 26, 2016 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2016 Interesting news, people love him people hate him. A man has died and a family will no doubt be in mourning. Best wishes to the family and the people. 5
Jimmy_jack Posted November 26, 2016 Author Posted November 26, 2016 I don't mean the comment/question simply for our passion. It would be nice for the island to enjoy full diplomatic freedoms. Didn't happen for NK though so...
wabashcr Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Hopefully it means easing the recent restrictions on reforms in a way that will have a meaningful benefit for the Cuban people. Regardless of where you stand, you have to admit he had a hell of a run. He was one of the most important figures in the world over the latter half of the 20th century. Will be interesting to see how long his revolution endures after he's gone. 4
Popular Post rickthecabbie Posted November 26, 2016 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2016 Tonight we smoke Cohiba. 6
jazzboypro Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 No matter what, i think it's a sad day.. R.I.P El Comandante !! 4
Hash Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) It might escape many on this forum, but nations suffering the injustice of colonialism looked to him for inspiration, you agreed with him or disagreed, he was one of the last giants, in world politics. May he rest in peace. Edited November 26, 2016 by Hash 4
Popular Post Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2016 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2016 extremely unlikely to mean any change at all. he was a former leader. they will have various funerals and celebrations of his life and tributes etc (be very interesting to see which countries send representatives to the funeral and who those representatives are). on one of our early trips we met one of the govt ministers (international trade from memory, fabulous bloke, very entertaining and very open about things - had been in the moscow embassy during the missile crisis). we caught up with him on several trips. i asked him once, what would happen if/when fidel fell off the perch - and this was when fidel was still the leader. he looked at me like i was a dill and said pretty much the same as in every country. he would be replaced and everyone will continue to do their jobs. he said an interesting thing - it was always curious to him and others that outsiders always assumed fidel was the entire govt. he simply one of many (granted the leader) and they would all do their jobs. it might be different if fidel was still leader and this led to some sort of coup but as a former leader, expect business as usual. 7
Popular Post Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2016 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2016 and yes, RIP. love him or loathe him, he was a great character and a pivotal influence through the 2nd half of the 20th century. by one of those odd coincidences, i pulled his autobiography down from the shelves this morning, intending to read it. 6
JohnInCleveland Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: extremely unlikely to mean any change at all. he was a former leader. they will have various funerals and celebrations of his life and tributes etc (be very interesting to see which countries send representatives to the funeral and who those representatives are). on one of our early trips we met one of the govt ministers (international trade from memory, fabulous bloke, very entertaining and very open about things - had been in the moscow embassy during the missile crisis). we caught up with him on several trips. i asked him once, what would happen if/when fidel fell off the perch - and this was when fidel was still the leader. he looked at me like i was a dill and said pretty much the same as in every country. he would be replaced and everyone will continue to do their jobs. he said an interesting thing - it was always curious to him and others that outsiders always assumed fidel was the entire govt. he simply one of many (granted the leader) and they would all do their jobs. it might be different if fidel was still leader and this led to some sort of coup but as a former leader, expect business as usual. It seemed in recent years to this casual observer that Raul was interested in more reforms and more warming of ties with the US but was somewhat hamstrung by his brother's rhetoric. How this changes relations with the US will be fascinating to watch. Love him or hate him, he was a massively important geopolitical figure in the last 100 years.
Bohn007 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 I took down the duplicate post about his passing. This seemed like a good article about it though. http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/national-international/Cubas-Fidel-Castro-Dies-252877991.html
Popular Post El Presidente Posted November 26, 2016 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2016 23 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: extremely unlikely to mean any change at all. he was a former leader. they will have various funerals and celebrations of his life and tributes etc (be very interesting to see which countries send representatives to the funeral and who those representatives are). on one of our early trips we met one of the govt ministers (international trade from memory, fabulous bloke, very entertaining and very open about things - had been in the moscow embassy during the missile crisis). we caught up with him on several trips. i asked him once, what would happen if/when fidel fell off the perch - and this was when fidel was still the leader. he looked at me like i was a dill and said pretty much the same as in every country. he would be replaced and everyone will continue to do their jobs. he said an interesting thing - it was always curious to him and others that outsiders always assumed fidel was the entire govt. he simply one of many (granted the leader) and they would all do their jobs. it might be different if fidel was still leader and this led to some sort of coup but as a former leader, expect business as usual. Ditto Revolutionary change had a miniscule chance if he passed away while in power. They have had years now to lock in the next evolution of the military. They have done it well much to my disappointment. 5
JohnS Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Yes, I too am amazed that he made it to 90, with the threats to his life over the years. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38114953
Warren Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Wow. He came to power the year I was born and he has died on my birthday. Ironically I read this while smoking not a Cuban but a Hamlet. RIP you old bastard. 3
Bohn007 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 From CNBC. Fidel Castro: The life and death of a revolutionary http://www.cnbc.com/id/101432749http://www.cnbc.com/id/101432749
Warren Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, El Presidente said: Happy Birthday Wazza! Thanks Mate, hope your fishing trip went well.
Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, Warren said: Wow. He came to power the year I was born and he has died on my birthday. Ironically I read this while smoking not a Cuban but a Hamlet. RIP you old bastard. wazza, happy birthday. i have always had a fascination as he basically walked into havana as i popped out of the womb.
Bohn007 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 "I promise that I will be with you, if you so wish, for as long as I feel that I can be useful - and if it is not decided by nature before - not a minute less and not a second more ... Now I understand that it was not my destiny to rest at the end of my life." - March 6, 2003, Fidel Castro upon being re-elected by Cuba's National Assembly to sixth term as Council of State president.
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