Am i wrong ?

[WarriorPrincess]

I have just heard yet again that Nick Kyrgios has just avoided a ban from playing but received a fine for whatever he did this time, basically sick of hearing about him so I phase out when his name is mentioned.

Seriously this child, and I use the term lightly, is more an embarrassment to Australia than an asset on the tennis court.

I would be ashamed if he was my son or even part of the family and boy would he know each time he saw me

some would say I should look at his game but whenever there is something about him on the news it is always about his behaviour not his playing, so why bother watching his game

Had my rant glad to get it off my mind

[Warren]

Di when I saw the title of your post I thought to myself. Di is a woman and this sounds like a trick question that has no right answer.

I agree with you though. This little **** has been given a great opportunity to build a fantastic life for himself and represent his country along the way. All he can do is throw childish tantrums and shame us as a country.

We need another Pat Rafter, not more of this rot.

[sastrooper]

Its not like he's any good either ...

[MIKA27]

For some reason he seriously thinks he will get some sort of reputation like John McEnroe?

Perhaps people should stop attending his games? I can't stand him either nor his brother who attempts to get as much attention as he..

[Jeremy Festa]

Di, you know I love you, but for the sake of conversation, on this random topic, I am going to say, that, "yes, you are wrong."

People are a product of their environment. And deserve the benefit of the doubt. Tennis prodigies, or any prodigies, while young, are rarely placed in a social or educational environment that arms them with the full set of social skills. Or the tools for coping with stress, pressure, embarrassment etc etc. They usually don't get to experience the school yard justice to keep them in-check or grounded.

So yeah. The young guy may be a ****. But he's only 20. I was a **** when I was 20. Probably still am some of the time. All guys are, some of the time. And some have to live their life in the limelight.

I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.

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[Fuzz]

Deserves the benefit of the doubt? He's been given more than his fair share. Time to toss him out on his arse.

[skalls]

John McEnroe won though. This ******* hasn't.

Professional athletes, with as much money as they make, should shut the hell up and play.

[oliverdst]

Di, you know I love you, but for the sake of conversation, on this random topic, I am going to say, that, "yes, you are wrong."

People are a product of their environment. And deserve the benefit of the doubt. Tennis prodigies, or any prodigies, while young, are rarely placed in a social or educational environment that arms them with the full set of social skills. Or the tools for coping with stress, pressure, embarrassment etc etc. They usually don't get to experience the school yard justice to keep them in-check or grounded.

So yeah. The young guy may be a ****. But he's only 20. I was a **** when I was 20. Probably still am some of the time. All guys are, some of the time. And some have to live their life in the limelight.

I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.

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Kind of naif to think that people are the product of an enviroment.

Maybe you are trying to fool yourself thinking that because you were a **** in your 20's everybody was.

[foursite12]

Product of his environment? What does that say about all of the NON-dicks who grew up in horrible environments and became heroes as both athletes and citizens--despite that environment?

[btp1979]

Di when I saw the title of your post I thought to myself. Di is a woman and this sounds like a trick question that has no right answer.

I agree with you though. This little **** has been given a great opportunity to build a fantastic life for himself and represent his country along the way. All he can do is throw childish tantrums and shame us as a country.

We need another Pat Rafter, not more of this rot.

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking lol!

[Smallclub]

Tennis prodigies, or any prodigies, while young, are rarely placed in a social or educational environment that arms them with the full set of social skills.

Sorry but that's completely wrong.

Borg, Wilander, Becker, Federer, Nadal and a few others were in their teen years when they started to win almost everything on the pro tournaments.

All educated, polite, respectful, modest, etc.

[westg]

If he channelled all that energy into being the best possible person he could be on and off the court.... well he could be amazing. Sorry J but it really shits me when people say he is only twenty... he is in the prime of his life... he should be a man ...20 years old he should be wiping the floor with his opponents ....

Come on Nick prove us all wrong

[raymond5737]

I have these discussions often with my wife and this is what I tell her... Don't let the personal lives of athletes, Hollywood "celebrities", artists of any kind or politicians bother you for what they do and say away from their perspective lines of business, it's just a lot of noise and a waste of your time and energy.

There are loud mouth braggarts, bullies, molesters, philanderers, con artists and assholes everywhere. If you must focus them, TRY to focus on what they do best. If through their profession, they exploit the public for their own profit, kick them to the curb.

All the rest of what they say and do is a waste of time. I'm talking about the likes of Bill Clinton (philandering), Adrian Peterson (Minnesota Viking that beat his kid).

Just tune them out. Unless of course you are addicted to picking up on that kind of crap. My wife hates when I catch her watching TMZ or Hollywood tonight.

[Jeremy Festa]

Kind of naif to think that people are the product of an enviroment.

Maybe you are trying to fool yourself thinking that because you were a **** in your 20's everybody was.

Certainly not naif. Maybe naff though. In saying that, it is a proven scientific fact.

And I am all for editing/paraphrasing to suit one's point of view. But I said 20. Not 20's. That's a whole decade right there.

How old are you?

Product of his environment? What does that say about all of the NON-dicks who grew up in horrible environments and became heroes as both athletes and citizens--despite that environment?

It says good genetics? Maybe!

Saying someone is a "product of their environment" eludes to a more nurture slant in the age old, nature vs nurture argument.

Sorry but that's completely wrong.

Borg, Wilander, Becker, Federer, Nadal and a few others were in their teen years when they started to win almost everything on the pro tournaments.

All educated, polite, respectful, modest, etc.

It's maybe somewhat wrong. Certainly not completely.

You are 100% right though. In my defence, the people you mentioned are the "rarely's" I mentioned.

If he channelled all that energy into being the best possible person he could be on and off the court.... well he could be amazing. Sorry J but it really shits me when people say he is only twenty... he is in the prime of his life... he should be a man ...20 years old he should be wiping the floor with his opponents ....

Come on Nick prove us all wrong

This is 2015, not 1915 mate. He's not being shipped off to war. Or getting married and having kids of his own. We are children for way longer these days.

And a late caveat to my bold statement, for the "sake of conversation" is; in all honesty, before this thread, the only time I have ever heard of Nick Kyrgios, was on this very forum, when people complained about him. I don't watch the news, commercial TV, or read the newspaper, so my impression of him has only ever been from the negative standpoint. I don't really care how he behaves, or even plays tennis. Wikipedia says he plays good. Or "aggressive." Which is cool. Whatever.

I hope he proves the critics wrong and I hope he grows out of whatever it is he is going through. But only so, that in many years time, I can look back on this thread and not say, "Jesus Jeremy, you really shouldn't have said anything at all about that Australian tennis player you never heard of."

[MIKA27]

If he channelled all that energy into being the best possible person he could be on and off the court.... well he could be amazing. Sorry J but it really shits me when people say he is only twenty... he is in the prime of his life... he should be a man ...20 years old he should be wiping the floor with his opponents ....

Come on Nick prove us all wrong

Go give him a hug mate

[oliverdst]

Go give him a hug mate

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[westg]

Would like to slap his face....... but that's hitting children....can't do that

[Jeremy Festa]

Would like to slap his face....... but that's hitting children....can't do that

Fantastic

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[westg]

[Ken Gargett]

Di, you know I love you, but for the sake of conversation, on this random topic, I am going to say, that, "yes, you are wrong."

People are a product of their environment. And deserve the benefit of the doubt. Tennis prodigies, or any prodigies, while young, are rarely placed in a social or educational environment that arms them with the full set of social skills. Or the tools for coping with stress, pressure, embarrassment etc etc. They usually don't get to experience the school yard justice to keep them in-check or grounded.

So yeah. The young guy may be a ****. But he's only 20. I was a **** when I was 20. Probably still am some of the time. All guys are, some of the time. And some have to live their life in the limelight.

I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.

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understand what you say and i certainly did plenty at 20 that i perhaps now wish i had not. but no one was paying me squillions to act in a better way. i suspect that part of your argument stems from the fact that you have not followed him (you mention having only heard of him here). all fine but he has been given a 2nd chance and a 3rd etc etc. he shows absolutely no willingness to learn or improve his behaviour. he is doing himself so much harm. as well as embarrassing australia and disgracing himself and his family.

i'd also suggest that the 'rarelys' you mention are actually the norm in tennis. his actions are far less common (the reverse would apply in plenty of other sports).

he has had too many chances. love to see him banned for 12 months and see if the penny finally drops.

[Overproof]

The twitter feed with him and Tex Walker's good for a laugh.

[Tomay]

When he first came onto the scene I thought he was awesome. Turns out he's another in a line of Australian tennis stars who are wankers. There's definetly something wrong with the culture of our system at the moment. We need another Pat Rafter.

[MIKA27]

You're Not Wrong Di: Nick Kyrgios tanks points again en route to Shanghai Masters loss to Mischa Zverev

 

Australian Nick Kyrgios  is back at it again, tanking points en route to a straight-sets loss to unseeded German Mischa Zverev at the Shanghai Masters.

Zverev, 29, took just 48 minutes to beat number 12 seed Kyrgios, who appeared uninterested throughout the second-round clash, putting in a series of half-hearted serves, barely moved to meet his opponent's returns and at times started walking off the court before the point was over.

The Australian also clashed with spectators before being booed off the court after losing 6-3, 6-1.

At one point, Kyrgios, who testified he was "learning and maturing" after his Japan Open title propelled him to a 14 in the world, appeared to be walking off court before Zverev had returned a ball to him.

The effort was so poor that Sportsbet refunded more than $10,000 to over 100 punters.

"Another temper tantrum from nasty Nick was not what anyone who backed him expected, so we've done the right thing by our punters and given them back their cash that they placed on him in good faith," sportsbet.com.au's Will Byrne said.

"In other betting news we've stopped taking bets on who the Tool of 2016 is and have paid out early on Nick."

Kyrgios says he doesn't owe fans anything

Kyrgios later apologised on his Twitter account, saying he was still a work in progress.

During his match with Zverev, Kyrgios became embroiled in an angry exchange with a fan who told him to "respect the game" and "respect the people".

He replied: "You want to come here and play? Sit down and shut up and watch."

Kyrgios told a news conference afterwards that he did not owe spectators anything.

"It's my choice. If you don't like it, I didn't ask you to come and watch. Just leave," he said.

"You want to buy a ticket? Come watch me. You know I'm unpredictable. It's your choice. I don't owe you anything."

'Tired' Kyrgios knows he needs to find consistency

Kyrgios, 21, whose three ATP titles were all won this season, said he had been too "physically tired" to compete and had thrown in the towel.

"It was just tough," he told reporters.

"Obviously I played a lot of matches in a row. Physically tired, mentally tired. That's why I'm trying to work on being able to be consistent every week.

Kyrgios has made as many headlines for his off-court antics as for his exciting tennis during his brief, but turbulent, career.

It is not the first time Kyrgios has been accused of blatant tanking in a match.

He also clearly threw away a game against Richard Gasquet at Wimbledon last year and tennis legend John McEnroe said at the US Open if he did not want to give the sport his all he should "do something else".

MIKA: When will this guy be ousted from Tennis? 

It's one thing to be full of yourself or have attitude, who cares, it can be annoying for sure, but Nick isn't the only trouble maker that has come and gone through sport, but Tanking now and attitude is just unbelievable. 

[El Presidente]

12 month ban. Please. 

You pay your coin to watch sport where combatants give their best. They may have a bad day but they give the best they have. 

To do what NK did is a middle finger to all. 

Time to give a middle finger back. 

[rckymtn22]

Too bad the fan didn't go down to replace the douche on the court.That would have been great.