Who's looking forward to Nicaraguan cigars blended with Cuban Tobacco.

[cigarbreak]

I have a feeling NC companies will procure some cuban tobacco (the low qual stuff) and blend it with their own and sell the final product at premiums higher than they charge for Padrons and Opus.

[laficion]

The cigars from Cuba are already blended with Nicaraguan tobacco, aren't they?

Frist,WHO said this B.S. (N.C. Makers ???)

Second - WHY do some want,"CLEAR HAVANAS" back ????? Here we go again !!!!!!!!!

&

Third- What If the Cubans don't want to sell their Tobacco to N.C. makers that have been spiting on Cuban Tobacco

for years ???? And said that It's not that great anyway. We all know that the rest of the world Is wrong even If the U.S.A.Is the biggest market place In the world.

Guy

[wabashcr]

I agree with what others have said. It will take much more than the embargo falling for this to happen. The tobacco farming industry in Cuba will have to be privatized, and the current government has no incentive to do that. They're going to need all the raw material they can get to supply increased demand. And if they had any interest in selling tobacco as a raw material to other cigar makers, they could have done that to any number of manufacturers around the world who sell cigars outside the US.

I do think it's possible you'll see some smaller operations, like custom rollers, that might get their hands on a very small amount of decent Cuban leaf. And maybe they will choose in the future to blend it with NC leaf. But again, I don't think the embargo will have much to do with it.

[Colt45]

If you're a chef, and you have access to 2/3 of all the ingredients in the world, you can make a great meal.

If you have access to all the ingredients in the world, you can make the best meal.

Some of the greatest chefs use what's locally available seasonally

I'm not against the premise, but as I mentioned, I can't see the current industry simply giving up their monopoly. I also feel that Independent Cuban producers should have a shot at producing Cuban cigars well before those outside of Cuba are allowed to obtain tobacco for blends.

But - if / when trade opens completely, there's something to be said about farmers being allowed to sell their tobacco to whomever they wish....

[Smallclub]

If you're a chef, and you have access to 2/3 of all the ingredients in the world, you can make a great meal.

If you have access to all the ingredients in the world, you can make the best meal.

That's what this is all about.

Sorry but you're wrong on all points.

I don't want to have a discussion about gastronomy, but remember that Cuba makes the best cigars in the world with leaves from an area smaller than a US county…

[JamesNYC]

If CCs are sold without limitation in the US, there is no way that Cuba could keep up with the demand, much less sell tobacco to other countries. If there are private farmers who can do this, then perhaps it could be done, but I think only on a small scale. And they you have issues such as where is the tobacco dried and baled and kept before it is used? And where are they growing this tobacco? Outside Havana's suburbs?

Like almost all good natural products, Terroir is paramount. IMHO that is why Cuban seed simply doesn't yield the same tobacco when planted in other countries. Of course, I imagine there are many who would love to add some Cuban tobacco into their blends, not so much for the flavor, as for the perception that they can sell their cigars by adding that as a selling point.

Personally, I would not be interested in a whisky distilled in Scotland being mixed with an American bourbon or rye and then bottled. I'm not saying it couldn't possibly work, just that it would not appeal to me.

[cigcars]

?? Well - has anybody tried Meerapfel's La Estancias cigars yet??

[Lotusguy]

That the ending of the embargo does not automatically equate to Cuban tobacco being available outside of Cuba - or to just anyone inside, either.

^^^^^this

Or: yet another thread on the oh-so-close end of the embargo

[Squarehead]

Sorry but you're wrong on all points.

I don't want to have a discussion about gastronomy, but remember that Cuba makes the best cigars in the world with leaves from an area smaller than a US county…

That's a matter of opinion (about Cuban Cigars)

[Smallclub]

That's a matter of opinion (about Cuban Cigars)

Well, if you don't take in account depth of flavours, variety of flavours, intensity of flavours, complexity of flavours, ability to age, etc. etc, I suppose it might be seen as a matter of opinion... or not…

[Nickbarb]

They better get a great blender because the blended cigars I've smoked weren't that good.

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[JamesNYC]

Well, here is an email I received from a LCDH site, announcing a free cigar with a purchase of a box.

The cigar is a 50/50 blend of Cuban and Nicaraguan tobaccos ( I highlighted that part of the ad)! Does this interest anybody?

would like to offer you a gift! Dear Aficionados,

To celebrate the opening of our new shop in the historical city centre of Bruges in Belgium, we would like to offer you a gift!

Although part of the same group, our new shop was launched under a new concept: we do not only sell Cuban cigars, but also cigars from other parts of the world. To make things easier and allow combined shopping we kept the existing online shop for the La Casa Del Habano and La Casa Del Tabaco products.

The other online products were created under the name Dominican, Honduras and Nicaragua cigars.

To celebrate our expansion we would like to offer you our own cigar that is specially made for the opening of La Casa del Tabaco Bruges!

For each order that we receive, we give away a free La Casa del Tabaco cigar, valued at 14 Euros. Every person can receive 1 free cigar. This special offer is until the end of this month.

The La Casa del Tabaco cigar is made of 50% Aged Cuban Tobaco and 50% Nicaraguan Tobaco and was handrolled in Honduras. The cigar has a cepo of 52 and a length of 150 mm.

If you like you can also buy the LCDT cigar for 14 Euros for a single and 350 Euros for a box of 25 cigars by using following links:

I might want to smoke one as a curiosity, but I'm not excited by the idea.

[TomF]

Well, here is an email I received from a LCDH site, announcing a free cigar with a purchase of a box.

The cigar is a 50/50 blend of Cuban and Nicaraguan tobaccos ( I highlighted that part of the ad)! Does this interest anybody?

would like to offer you a gift! Dear Aficionados,

[...snip...]

I might want to smoke one as a curiosity, but I'm not excited by the idea.

I got that same email this morning. Prices are out of sight.

[msm1771]

Omfg me!!!

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[Al3xanderdelag]

At this point HSA is stretched pretty thin trying to meet the demands of the world. If the embargo is lifted then that would really affect how much tobacco they can use because they have only so much space to grow. As selfish as it might sound I hope the embargo isn't lifted, and I'm American.

[cigcars]

I say no thanks.

I have never found a NC that I thought to myself, "Self, I would love a box of these!" I have multiple coolers full of CCs with 0 NCs. I personally hope the people who talk **** about CC cigar keep smoking NC cigars and go away...., but that's me being greedy.

*Actually, and respectfully, I sort of don't mind a NC cigar now and then just to keep me appreciative of my Habanas more. It's in comparance with that old Arab saying, "All sunshine makes a desert." If I had only steaks, lobster, pheasant-under-glass, caviar, etc. all the time, I'd be bored; spoiled; possibly less fit to accept regular things, etc. This way, having plain hot dogs with mustard, White Castle sliders, backs and neckbones, etc., I can be more appreciative of the finer luxuries of life. And so with my cigars; an occasional Honduran, Dominican, even machine-made Topper and Judge's Cave selection which I don't mind and do enjoy here and there makes me savor my Cubans even more. ? Makes since?? My 2 cts.

[PointFivePast]

My prediction, if Cuba ever has the opportunity is something like what happened to Kona coffee.... In the late 90's more "Kona" coffee was sold than Kona had the capacity to produce, so clearly somebody was introducing coffee beans grown elsewhere into the production/distribution chain... Once the marketers sleuthed out the companies introducing the faux Kona, you have a bunch of multi-million dollar lawsuits (likely most of the proceeds going to the lawyers)... Then you end up with "100% Kona" labeling for pure Kona coffee and a vast amount more "Kona Blend" coffee for those blends containing "some" Kona beans (maybe 1 bean per pound?? Who knows!).

Same idea applied to Cigars: first a bunch of "Cuban" cigars with someone sneaking in NC tobacco to make up for short supplies, then lawsuits, then some "100% Cuban" cigars and "Cuban Blend" for the rest.

Personally, I'd love to see some skilled blenders get the chance to play with some CC/NC blends and see what they can accomplish with their art. However, in the real world I can't see this happening as anything other than a profit play, so I'd rather keep CC and NC apart.

This, 100% this.

I'm sure HSA will keep their lines pure but once other producers can sell blended CC/NC cigars in the US I expect to see a lot of "Cuban" cigars that are decidedly lacking in Cuban tobacco. We've already seen it with cigars rolled with pre-embargo tobacco in the US... in what is likely very small proportions.

The interesting thing to see is if a cigar boom is created. Will customers rush out to buy any cigar with Cuban tobacco? Probably. Will they continue to smoke cigars and build up collections as many of us have? Not likely. I expect to see a lot more Cohiba on the golf course, but not many more smokers in my local smoking spots.

Back to the question at hand: Yes there will be blends, but I am not particularly excited for them. I expect the Cuban Blends to see some of the highest markup of any Cuban tobacco product (relative to quality/amount of Cuban tobacco) and therefore will avoid them unless others have spoken highly of that particular cigar.

[ErikB]

Don Pepin coming back to Cuba and doing a cuban cigar with Habanos SA would be interesting to many people. Could be another limited edition

[mk05]

I think that's what RA Allones Extra tastes like.

[earthson]

I'd try one. I feel that Fuente could do some interesting things with Cuban leaf, but I dont think Cuba would just piss away their empire for a gimmick. Maybe some filler leaf overstock, but the wrappers, to me, are the thing that truly separate Cuban tobacco and put it in its own stratosphere.

[RWhiz]

The cigars from Cuba are already blended with Nicaraguan tobacco, aren't they? ?

I thought it was mostly Dominican leaf.

[backslide]

I thought it was mostly Dominican leaf.

It's also 100% rumor

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