cigcars Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 The term "Cubanesque" was originally coined by a comittee of low grade sales people and marketing failures in an attempt to raise the sales level of a now-dead Dominican cigar brand. That comittee are all dead now and roasting in Hell. Any sales /marketing team currently using this term are going to Hell......... *Wow, man you're rough!
CaptainQuintero Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 There are so many Illusione cigars that I never even bother. Too many choices. Same with Tatuaje. But maybe I'll give that one a shot...I'm interested in finding an NC that actually holds up against a good CC. I know what you mean, I was gifted one and it blew me away. Corona gorda so lovely size and super creamy rich biscuity flavour, like an Upmann. 1
rmill3r Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 I know what you mean, I was gifted one and it blew me away. Corona gorda so lovely size and super creamy rich biscuity flavour, like an Upmann. Yeah, I'm sold. 1
JohnS Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 I think it's a gimmick. I have smoked Non-Cubans and I have thoroughly enjoyed them. I think, in hindsight, some have been 'cubanesque' but only Cuban cigars have given me the multi-dimensional flavours and complexity which I enjoy so much. 2
Ginseng Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Question: Which region could lead to describing a cigar's flavor as "Cubanesque?" The Yellow area or the Gray area? Wilkey
Habana Mike Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Question: Which region could lead to describing a cigar's flavor as "Cubanesque?" The Yellow area or the Gray area? Wilkey I'd have to say D with no further data
Duxnutz Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 I would say it's mostly a gimmick but of all the Non-cc cigars I've smoked I reckon the Herrera Esteli line (natural not Norteno) and La Palina Goldie line are the closest. I still enjoy them too. It's just the other 5 tupperdores filled with NCs I could do without! 1
jacksfull Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 As a marketing tool = gimmick As experienced by a smoker = rare, but real 1
phreedh Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 It's a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? As pointed out by Ginseng's graphics, the traits that are distinctly cubanesque would by definition be those that set cubans apart from other cigars. Thus a non cuban can not display a cubanesque trait, in doing so it renders that trait non-cubanesque and instead generic. 1
ayepatz Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 In modern English, the suffix "-esque" is used to mean "in the style of" or "resembling". For example, were Australia to fail to qualify from the pool stages of the Rugby World Cup, that might be considered a very "Scotland-esque" thing to do. lol It's a pretty generalised suffix, and you could argue that all cigars are "Cubanesque" if they're brown-ish and cigar-shaped. Ish. It the same sort of marketing-speak that Estate Agents use to describe an abandoned drug squat as a "characterful loft space". 1
Ginseng Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 It's a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? As pointed out by Ginseng's graphics, the traits that are distinctly cubanesque would by definition be those that set cubans apart from other cigars. Thus a non cuban can not display a cubanesque trait, in doing so it renders that trait non-cubanesque and instead generic. Well done, sir. Precisely my point. In reality, the boundaries are probably not sharp as the fabricated graph depicts. The regions, if such a construct exists, would be fuzzy, indistinct, and of varying widths and transitions. Thus, it's possible that sufficient similarity might be perceived around the region targeted at (1.5, 3.0). Wilkey 1
Colt45 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Question for members: What do we consider Cubanesque, or I guess more directly, what do we consider the defining traits of Cuban cigars / tobacco. Is it strictly a matter of terroir, or does the philosophy of processing / blending ( Cuban and Non ) play a part?
ogus Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 In modern English, the suffix "-esque" is used to mean "in the style of" or "resembling". For example, were Australia to fail to qualify from the pool stages of the Rugby World Cup, that might be considered a very "Scotland-esque" thing to do. lol It's a pretty generalised suffix, and you could argue that all cigars are "Cubanesque" if they're brown-ish and cigar-shaped. Ish. It the same sort of marketing-speak that Estate Agents use to describe an abandoned drug squat as a "characterful loft space". First cubanexque. Then no Wallabies in the World Cup??????????? 1
Warren Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 It's probably a bit like calling a chubby girl rubenesque 1
TCContender Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 The first thing I thought of was the classic George Carlin stand-up when he rails on marketing of products and their contents. "Real chocolaty goodness. Know what that means? No f@#king chocolate." Same thing applies to Cubanesque. 3
Habana Mike Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 It's probably a bit like calling a chubby girl rubenesque Trouble is our Cubans are turning Rubenesque..... 1
treberty Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 The main difference between Cubans and NCs is simple - for me anyways... You'll rarely smoke a NC that is not linear. There is great NCs out there (Tats, old Camachos, Padrons, some Fuentes, some Garcia Pepins), but they don't have the complexity of a good Cuban. 1
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