PLMC AME MAY 13

[dowjr1]

Thought to finally give one of these boys a go after sitting it in my pre smoke 58rh bag for a few weeks. A little chilly here the day after Thanksgiving with a crisp but slight breeze...time to walk the Shepherds at the soccer fields. Stick had a nice color...not too pale but quite rugged looking. I might even say ugly. But rolling a think stick like this can't be easy right? Quick clip and draw test with no problems. It lit easily enough and my walk began...and that is where it ended. Some basic tobacco taste, maybe even a lead or metallic flavor. About five mins into the walk it went out. Hmmm. Relight and start off again. The next 40 minutes were much the same...little flavor and lots of relighting. I was so looking forward to the great flavors I hear about on these...sweet cream, etc. So I'm not sure if the batch needs more time or if I just got a bad one. To me I thought they just tasted green still. Not sure how long everyone likes to age these. Either way was a bit let down. Thoughts?

[ramon_cojones]

if i had a nickel for every time somebody tried a new (to them) cigar and said it was terrible only to come back later and say how fantastic they are...well draw your own conclusion

best pl in the lineup, then again i don't enjoy any other pl

[Optic101]

Give them some more time

[Smallclub]

Give them some more time

It's not only a matter of time. I started to smoke this cigar almost 15 years ago, and I still find a recurrent problem in each box: the blend is inconsistent, you can have a delicious one, followed by a concentrate of acidic bitter orange peel…

I love this cigar but I must admit it's the one I've binned the more often.

[Maplepie]

followed by a concentrate of acidic bitter orange peel…

The chemist in me is growing rowdy..........

[Sophistic]

way too young for a pl, 5y min in my experience

[earthson]

Let them settle. I've got the same boxcode. I store them low (62%) and dry box them for a day or two before smoking.

It's the only way around waiting for several more years.

[fabes]

Let them settle. I've got the same boxcode. I store them low (62%) and dry box them for a day or two before smoking.

It's the only way around waiting for several more years.

I'm curious about what you're stating here. Are you stating that storing at 62rh and dryboxing for a day or two is in some fashion bypassing a several year process?

That sounds a bit overly optimistic to me. I understand we all have our preferred methods of caring for our cigars, but your last sentence seems more wishful thinking and less fact.

[Smallclub]

That sounds a bit overly optimistic to me. I understand we all have our preferred methods of caring for our cigars, but your last sentence seems more wishful thinking and less fact.

Agreed.

When cigars are too young, they're too young whatever the storage conditions. Actually at a lower humidity they tend towards harshness and acidity, at a higher humidity they tend towards bitterness.

[Guest RobustoClubHavana]

I have two boxes of AME Oct 13 and so far the 5 I have smoke have all been fine my Humi cabinet sits around 66RH

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[ZAZ]

Thought to finally give one of these boys a go after sitting it in my pre smoke 58rh bag for a few weeks. A little chilly here the day after Thanksgiving with a crisp but slight breeze...time to walk the Shepherds at the soccer fields. Stick had a nice color...not too pale but quite rugged looking. I might even say ugly. But rolling a think stick like this can't be easy right? Quick clip and draw test with no problems. It lit easily enough and my walk began...and that is where it ended. Some basic tobacco taste, maybe even a lead or metallic flavor. About five mins into the walk it went out. Hmmm. Relight and start off again. The next 40 minutes were much the same...little flavor and lots of relighting. I was so looking forward to the great flavors I hear about on these...sweet cream, etc. So I'm not sure if the batch needs more time or if I just got a bad one. To me I thought they just tasted green still. Not sure how long everyone likes to age these. Either way was a bit let down. Thoughts?

I have this same exact box code (HQ). I haven't touched the box yet, but if I do soon, I will find this thread and update with my thoughts. They've been stored at 65% rH / 65 degrees since I received them.

[earthson]

I'm curious about what you're stating here. Are you stating that storing at 62rh and dryboxing for a day or two is in some fashion bypassing a several year process?

That sounds a bit overly optimistic to me. I understand we all have our preferred methods of caring for our cigars, but your last sentence seems more wishful thinking and less fact.

In side by side comparisons I've done with aged (~5 years) vs unaged (less than 2 years) stock, I have found that the right amount of dryboxing approximates aging. Is it the same as waiting around? No. Are the flavors, aromas, and enjoyment comparable? For me, yes.

[Smallclub]

Let them settle. I've got the same boxcode. I store them low (62%) and dry box them for a day or two before smoking.

In side by side comparisons I've done with aged (~5 years) vs unaged (less than 2 years) stock, I have found that the right amount of dryboxing approximates aging.

So one day or two of dryboxing approximates 3 years of age? IMHO that's more a luck of the draw, given the inconsistency of this blend.

btw, people who want to accelerate the aging process, generally store at higher RH levels and raised temperatures…

[Maplepie]

btw, people who want to accelerate the aging process, generally store at higher RH levels and raised temperatures…

What're the risks of that, though?

[earthson]

So one day or two of dryboxing approximates 3 years of age? IMHO that's more a luck of the draw, given the inconsistency of this blend.

btw, people who want to accelerate the aging process, generally store at higher RH levels and raised temperatures…

Yes it does, to me. As far as luck of the draw, I've had about 7 or 8 from this box and they've all been great.

[GottaBeKD]

What're the risks of that, though?

Mould

[dowjr1]

For the record, my CC humi is right around 65rh...so should be no storage concerns.

[Onelove]

I have boxes from AME April 13, AME Oct 13 and I think BMS April 14. Just nubbed one from the April 13 box that was great but two days ago pushed through one from the same that to me was sub par. At $4 US per stick I don't expect much and am pleasantly surprised more often than not.

[mgravito]

While I think age may help the other cigars in the box some, I think it was just a bad stick. No amount of age is going to make that any better. I went through a box of 25 recently and I do think they are approachable young. I would just chalk that one up as a bust.

[DWC]

I've smoked halfway thru my first box (same as OP's AME MAY '13) of these and I'm also not overly impressed. They do keep getting better as I get thru the box but even a 'good' one is still mediocre. Only one out of 12 I would consider really enjoyable. I too miss what others rave about with these.

I would much rather reach for a PLPC. I haven't had a bad one of them yet.

-Dan

[ramon_cojones]

classic mistake in letting cigars go without giving them a chance

sup mc4