gtejada Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 After learning of what happened to our brother Webbo, and me being relatively novice in Cubans, can some of you please share from your more experience the ideal rh for Cubans?
Popular Post Lant63 Posted October 14, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 14, 2014 Whatever RH you think they smoke best at. I like 65, others like 63,67,62,69,68,60,61,70,60.5,60.3,59.9,69,69,69,67.3. 64 sucks, CC smoke bad at that RH. 9
CaptainQuintero Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Realistically you're not going to be able to control the rh to a specific % unless you are running one hell of a rig. It's taste. I took my rh down to around 54% and was getting more intense flavours and better burns but the wrappers were becoming quite fragile so I bumped back up using 65% beads to something around 62-67 depending in the season and weather. Personally I find 60-65 is ideal, a good balance. Certainly I had issues with burning, draw and flavours when at around 70% 4
Ted Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 62-65% is what I keep mine at, I like it on the dryer side. Used to use the 70-70 when I started, sticks were too muted and tasteless.. 62% is perfect for me.
Habana Mike Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Oh God. Here we go again. Cue Piggy! Oh Ray, I think you're being paged Simulposts!
Colt45 Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 For me, an ideal rh would be predicated upon a consistency of construction (read draw).
Popular Post NJP Posted October 15, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 15, 2014 It's like Jeremy Clarkson introducing the Stig when the FOH world calls on Ray. Some say that if the outsider temp gets 0.2 below his perfect RH he will start splitting from the feet. Some say in summer he sweats only a nicotine oil of ligero from his brow, Seco from his nethers and volado between the toes. Some say that as a child he smoked a cigar with John Reed and taught him a few home truths, all we know is he is the Pig. 10
bradbrennan Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Varies For the locker room 16 degrees Celsius, 64-65% RH For the Walk in Humidor 18 degrees Celsius 65% RH. Warehouse runs at 17 degrees Cesius 67% RH. I asked the same question not too long ago as I'm sure many others have ....thought Rob's storage thoughts may be of interest to you
PigFish Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Great minds.... …and insane ones too! -LOL You guys must consider the opposite side of the Gaussian! -Piggy
PigFish Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 To the OP. Ideal is a matter of opinion… Less than ideal is a matter of physics and biology as the mold threads will clearly demonstrate to you. Cigar 'husbandry' is part science and fact and another part taste and subjectivity. Lastly, without offense, posting rH without a corresponding temperature is meaningless. Cigars, being hygroscopic; their water content (percent moisture content) is subject to both temperature and rH. One number without the other is without meaning! Saying that I like my cigars at 65rH could mean that they are either too wet, too dry, or just perfect and everywhere in between depending on the temperature that they are stored at that rH. Cheers! -Piggy PS… you guys are killing me! I have to start coming up with less predictable posts! This is turning to work… 2
PigFish Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 For me, an ideal rh would be predicated upon a consistency of construction (read draw). Ross, I drew you a new avatar. Check the Jackpot thread! -R
El Presidente Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Oh God. Here we go again. Cue Piggy! It is akin to "Release the Kraken" 3
El Presidente Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Bill PT is a good mate of mine. A local who purchases a box of Monte 2 from me every 3-4 weeks (One of those monogamous smokers). He has been doing it for 15 years. He will only smoke his Monte 2 at 70% to 73% RH. Over the years when we catch up for a cigar I give him one of my Monte 2 at 62-65% RH. Alas he hates them like that. I dislike them at 70%. We are both right. Whatever floats your boat! Experiment a little to see what works for you. It takes time...but that is generally in plenty supply.
1LegLance Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Over the years I have learned that cigars are much much tougher than we think... Within a range and with an understanding of what is happening. When monsoon season hits I know all my cigar are gonna taste muted and I will have wrapper burn issues. When I find a stick in a tubo under the truck seat I can tell based on brittleness how harsh it will taste or tasteless if all the oils are gone. Years ago I was in my "Ray-Piggy" mode where I data logged a 19cft upright freezer with a Johnson control unit and active devices. I would look at the log file on an old laptop (zenith!!) to make sure I didn't have issues with day vs night temps and all that. Then I noticed that when I traveled with cigars the taste would change depending on local conditions and how the cigars dried out during the trip....and I was still generally happy with the taste. So now I run 2 big wine coolers as giant bead driven humidors with no active cooling and I am a happy camper.....at a general 63% Rh @ 74F 1
mk05 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Cubans have been kind to advise everyone via the internal notice for as long as I can remember.
polarbear Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 All mine run at between 60%-65% at 16-18 degrees (depending on the weather) On an especially humid day they might creep up above 72% for half a day or so, but it never seems to affect them
PigFish Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Over the years I have learned that cigars are much much tougher than we think... Within a range and with an understanding of what is happening. When monsoon season hits I know all my cigar are gonna taste muted and I will have wrapper burn issues. When I find a stick in a tubo under the truck seat I can tell based on brittleness how harsh it will taste or tasteless if all the oils are gone. Years ago I was in my "Ray-Piggy" mode where I data logged a 19cft upright freezer with a Johnson control unit and active devices. I would look at the log file on an old laptop (zenith!!) to make sure I didn't have issues with day vs night temps and all that. Then I noticed that when I traveled with cigars the taste would change depending on local conditions and how the cigars dried out during the trip....and I was still generally happy with the taste. So now I run 2 big wine coolers as giant bead driven humidors with no active cooling and I am a happy camper.....at a general 63% Rh @ 74F … have to take issue with you here mate. Namely, you cannot grow out of Piggy mode. It is a permanent affliction… You must have had something other than Piggy mode, maybe a mutated form…! It is catching but you can't get rid of it…! -LOL -Ray 1
tjohn7 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 65%RH at 65F. Try to keep it in that range and dry box if I'm smoking a lot.
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