Maplepie Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 Yes, no one that YOU know.Now, now gents... Let's not have the Fuzz show up. Remember: deescalation. Sent by the Enigma on BlackBerry.
ramon_cojones Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 Pure speculations are "not too bad"? That's a new concept to me.. The reality is that NO ONE knows anything about price and date of release... I LOL'd
Popular Post LGC Posted September 20, 2014 Popular Post Posted September 20, 2014 What's with RA anyways? Only three regular production vitolas left and one of the most special/limited/regional released ever...I've said it hundreds of times. All of the discontinued cigars were never popular until they became scarce. How many folks were buying coronas and lonsdales BEFORE they were discontinued? How many people seeked out panatelas while they were readily available??? How many were buying La Glorias and El Reys on a regular basis???Make a cigar in "limited" production, put a second band on it, and dress up the packaging. Instantaneously, people are interested and ready to stand in line for it. I fell for it when ELs came out in 2000... and again when REs came out. Of the REs I own, I've only bitten in vitolas I like to smoke... when the price point is in line with what they should be. HSA has absolutely zero reasons to stop what they are doing to their entire lineup. How many people do you know (from cigar boards, etc.) are standing in line for 10 count boxes of unproven cigars that are going for 15-50 bucks a stick??? When someone says 20 dollars for one of these "limited" sticks is a "good" price... considering what others are going for.... you know something is way off. I'll just have to be content with the 10-18 year old PCs, TPCs, panatelas, ninfas, laguitos 1/2, etc.... that I paid 100-200 for (boxes of 25 that is, not 10)... Some time in the future, machine mades and budget smokes will be the only single-banded cigars left. 10
ramon_cojones Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 ^agree with this 100%, the cigar buying community "did" this the word limited excited people, to me it has a meaningless impact on flavor but because you offer something for a short time and jack the price up people go crazy, i've turned down multiple 1966s that have been offered to me and refuse all other ELs, and i'm not interested in smoking anything larger than a robusto (on the odd occasion will smoke a 52rg) but I had a bhk 56 that I got from a friend and it was difficult to smoke due to the size...I can't grasp how anyone would actively seek these things out and a common misconception with size is that more tobacco = more flavor but that simply isn't the case (gasp!) some of the ER are good, but like brandon said cost more than regular production, the leaf is the same, it doesn't cost more but the cigars do and everyone has been conditioned to think oh only 15 a stick is a good price where in fact it's double the price of comparably sized cigars fortunately not many in my circle smoke ELs anymore save for the odd one here and there cue automated pigfish response 1
PigFish Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 I've said it hundreds of times. All of the discontinued cigars were never popular until they became scarce. How many folks were buying coronas and lonsdales BEFORE they were discontinued? How many people seeked out panatelas while they were readily available??? How many were buying La Glorias and El Reys on a regular basis??? Make a cigar in "limited" production, put a second band on it, and dress up the packaging. Instantaneously, people are interested and ready to stand in line for it. I fell for it when ELs came out in 2000... and again when REs came out. Of the REs I own, I've only bitten in vitolas I like to smoke... when the price point is in line with what they should be. HSA has absolutely zero reasons to stop what they are doing to their entire lineup. How many people do you know (from cigar boards, etc.) are standing in line for 10 count boxes of unproven cigars that are going for 15-50 bucks a stick??? When someone says 20 dollars for one of these "limited" sticks is a "good" price... considering what others are going for.... you know something is way off. I'll just have to be content with the 10-18 year old PCs, TPCs, panatelas, ninfas, laguitos 1/2, etc.... that I paid 100-200 for (boxes of 25 that is, not 10)... Some time in the future, machine mades and budget smokes will be the only single-banded cigars left. … can I just add the aforementioned paragraph to my posts in "why I am not a buyer thread?" And to answer your questions Brandon, yes I was, I know a few (the same group as you), and I will be drumming my fingers, contently, in rhythm with yours… -Ray
shlomo Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 The price will be thye price and they will be released when they get released. People will line up to buy them and if they are not priced stupidly (to each's opinion of course) then they will sell out very fast. REGARDLESS of if they are lousy cigars or not. Hype machine at work, but sometimes the hype is real.
Lotusguy Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 The price will be thye price and they will be released when they get released. People will line up to buy them and if they are not priced stupidly (to each's opinion of course) then they will sell out very fast. REGARDLESS of if they are lousy cigars or not. Hype machine at work, but sometimes the hype is real. I'm seriously thinking of buying for investment since the hype for these is just unreal. For the record, I really loved the few original RA 898 I was lucky enough to try. 1
polarbear Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 15 euro a stick still puts these at almost twice the cost ofa box of Parti 898s and by the time the sSwiss vendors get some that price will be closer to 20 euro a stick I'd love a box or two but it's gonna be hard to justify for me, especially when the new Diplo RE is prob gonna be around the $500us mark when it lands
shlomo Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 I'm seriously thinking of buying for investment since the hype for these is just unreal. For the record, I really loved the few original RA 898 I was lucky enough to try. Ive done it many times iwth cigars I was less than fond of.
1LegLance Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Well I am one of the FEW people who have always loved the small & the thin of the habanos world. RG Lonsdales were a staple smoke until gone. Coronas are a fav but also gone from so many marcas. I also fell for the hype with the new century and the woke up to the saddness that was/is the yearly DC list. So I also refuse to over pay for LE's, RE's and such and just support the great smokes I love in order to do my part to keep them alive. Rafeals, Sanchos, SLR, Little Boli's & RA's all great sticks and at a price I can afford to enjoy.
polarbear Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Ive done it many times iwth cigars I was less than fond of. if you bought enought of them they would make good "trade bait" 1
Maplepie Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Would you happen yo know the blog/website address? TIA 'fraid it isn't that easy, mate... Marc mentiond that it's shortened to another item on the website/blog. the real deal is a tad harder to get ahold of
mk05 Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Would you happen yo know the blog/website address? TIA Sure, any LCDH websites will list upcoming releases. Steve Griff also has a blog that lists releases.
Maplepie Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Sure, any LCDH websites will list upcoming releases. Steve Griff also has a blog that lists releases. ah. that's what you mean. go to the website of LCdH Knokke for the email updates. i didn't even register for that and am on his list! Stephen is also a very good BotL based out of the UK. He posts here occasinally, too.
saintsmokealot Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Love the size never got to try one...
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