NJP Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 The first eight years I smoked duty free Siglo IV nothing else, some dog rocket dealer talked me into a NC journey that took 6weeks of my life and I got nothing in return. We'll maybe I did, I learnt that you cannot polish a **** all you can do is sprinkle glitter on it. So I see similarities with adding Cuban tobacco to NC gear as the same. My ignorance is to only smoke Cuban Puros now and that's me. When like Ray I feel failed only then will I take another Journey.
sengjc Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Where and when can I get some? This is excellent news. While I enjoy Cuabn puros, I have always wondered what a CC/NC blend would be like.
Smallclub Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Nicaraguan tobacco practically IS Havana-esque IMHO, is it not? No, not at all. I smoke the occasional Oliva, Tatuaje or Illusione precisely for a change of pace.
Maplepie Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 if i'm correct, Montecristo Blues and Reds are made with HSA permission in Switzerland and France using full cuban tobacco and non-cuban wrapper. in my opinion, better cigarillos than the puro (harsher) montecristo minis. Food for thought.
Smallclub Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 if i'm correct, Montecristo Blues and Reds are made with HSA permission in Switzerland and France using full cuban tobacco and non-cuban wrapper. I doubt they are made in France, as Imperial is delocating all its activities in cheaper countries. Even the french cigarettes are made in Romania…
Maplepie Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 I doubt they are made in France, as Imperial is delocating all its activities in cheaper countries. Even the french cigarettes are made in Romania… damn... that's a real shame. those French cigars are still rolled there, no? seems like enough of a niche to necessitate locally rolled products
cigcars Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 No, not at all. I smoke the occasional Oliva, Tatuaje or Illusione precisely for a change of pace. That's in YOUR opinion of which I was immediate to point out in MY observation - that it was MY opinion
Popular Post PigFish Posted July 4, 2014 Popular Post Posted July 4, 2014 One poster on one thread says he is not interested in facts… another says he is not interested in opinions…!!! Individualism makes the world go round I guess. I read (and write on) the forum for both. Some folks have strong opinions and discuss them with gusto. Some are just plane rude. As a conscientious observer, I think we should all read what we write before we post it so that other people don't confuse which one we actually are! Cheers! -Piggy 5
Maplepie Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 One poster on one thread says he is not interested in facts… another says he is not interested in opinions…!!! Individualism makes the world go round I guess. I read (and write on) the forum for both. and one poster should be cooking ribs... Count me in as the comical relief!
Colt45 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Bill, thanks for the info. First thing that comes to mind for me is that I might be a little concerned about the use of "decades old" tobacco. Interesting regardless. 1
PigFish Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Mmmm…. I love ribs! (That is my opinion). No one makes ribs better than me! (That is a fact.) Now, that I have insulted everyone… I will go back to my '01 RG CE. Which has been stellar, by the way. (My opinion.) That cigar never should have been discontinued, and Tabacuba sucks for cutting it. (Those are facts.) Keep it angry people… Cheers! -Piggy 2
perkinke Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Garbanz and Smallclub are on point. That Cuban "essence" will be completely lost using any other tobacco and the mixing of several region's and country's tobacco does nothing to pique my interest. My 2 cents. I think this is where my interest differs while agreeing with your point. I don't think the goal of such a blend would be to replicate the flavor or "essence" of a Cuban puro, but rather to combine the flavors and attributes into something new and different. Particularly since it is being made in a place where Cubans are easy to purchase. I completely understand the purists, I tend that way in a lot of areas; but in the realms of food, drink, and cigars I'm always up for trying something new. Even if I don't like it I never consider it a failure, I'm more in Edison's camp of "I've never failed, I've found ten thousand ways that don't work." 3
Smallclub Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I don't think the goal of such a blend would be to replicate the flavor or "essence" of a Cuban puro, but rather to combine the flavors and attributes into something new and different. Maybe, but, when you read the CA's article, the justification is not "we managed to find a fantastic way to blend cuban tobacco", but "we have all this tobacco, from different vintages, and we had to use it one way or another". And, what can be the consistency of a production including leaves from different decades?
sengjc Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I think it should be more like this: Mmmm…. I love ribs! (That is A FACT). IMG_5770.JPG No one makes ribs better than me! (That is AN OPINION)... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
shlomo Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 So what are your thoughts on the CC/NC blend with this family cigar? 2
PigFish Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I think it should be more like this: Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD … no one wants your opinion about my facts!!! -LOL That's not rude, its a fact… I think! I kinda' lost track… All I know for sure is that I am always right… Time for another rib!!! Top it off with a Partagas Chico… All right then…
Fuzz Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Either everyone take a step back and breathe a little, or I will lock this topic off.
mash Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 So what are your thoughts on the CC/NC blend with this family cigar? Send me one and I'll let you know.
shlomo Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Send me one and I'll let you know. I'll be in the US soon and grab a couple. PM me your address, ill send you one gladly.
CaptainQuintero Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I'm more in Edison's camp of "I've never failed, I've found ten thousand ways that don't work." I thought Edison's camp was more "I've never failed, I've only ever hidden my failures by ripping off other people's successes" 2
Maplepie Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I thought Edison's camp was more "I've never failed, I've only ever hidden my failures by ripping off other people's successes" Poor Tesla... poor, poor Tesla........ (literally...) 3
perkinke Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 I thought Edison's camp was more "I've never failed, I've only ever hidden my failures by ripping off other people's successes" Yup, he found the way that worked.
El Presidente Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 I sincerely wish Jeremiah and Joshua every success. Anyone in this industry that shows passion and commitment has my full support.
ogus Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 I have tried blending with Cuban leaf.Generally the tobaccos I have are Nicaraguan,Columbian,Cameroon,Brasilian,Dominican,Pennsylvania broadleaf,and a few others. The Cuban leaf has been from plugged or damaged sticks I have. The Cuban flavors and aromas are easily overshadowed and masked by most all of the leaf I have tried,with the exception of Cameroon. It is surprising that even just a broadleaf wrapper can totally overpower a petit corona sized stick,even a Bolivar. To blend Non Cuban tobacco with Cuban will be tricky,if you want the Cuban essence to come through. I wish I had bales of decades old Cuban tobacco,I would toss the other stuff on the compost heap............. Where's the Carolina Belt Virginia Man?
Smallclub Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Where's the Carolina Belt Virginia Man? In aromatic pipe mixtures, covered with sauces… and in Cornell&Diehl pipe blends…
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