El Presidente Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Ok we all do it from time to time Picking up a couple of vids for my youngest son Tom this past weekend. He is12. Watching great vids is one of our passions. Team America....I loved it. Wife shut it sown at the 20 minute mark. The puppet sex scene doesn't help Apocalypso (Mel Gibson) .....seriously...was Harrisons Fords movies "Indiana Jones" more gruesome (pulling heart out of chest scene?) Ang culled it after 30 minutes. What is a dad to do? As I tell my son G rating ....Gross PG ....Pretty good M....magnificent (possibly) MA 15+ (Mighty awesome) R ( Ripper) Does it make me a bad dad?
Fuzz AI Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Can't wait until you explain X eXtraordinary x3! In all honesty, you see more graphic images on the 6pm news. We all know movies are as fake as Michael Jackson's nose, but the news is real life (or as close an approximation as we can get on TV nowadays). I was watching slasher flicks and much worse by the time I was 12, and I turned out to be a perfectly normal, well adjusted individual...
AverageJoe83 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Does it make me a bad dad? Nope. Some out there would argue desensitization to adult views, but I would say better to learn things from family than from other sources. God knows that if you taboo something it just makes them want it more. Can't wait until you explain X X-traordinary EDIT: Damnit Fuzz you beat me too it!
Fuzz AI Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 X-traordinary EDIT: Damnit Fuzz you beat me too it! Well, I could have said those films are from Amsterdam...
AverageJoe83 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Well, I could have said those films are from Amsterdam... Lmao
sharks Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I'm in the same boat there Prez. Although my boys are alot younger. The blokes are sitting down peacefully watching something with the old man, in comes the wife. "Thats not appropriate turn it off, change the channel, thats to violent, off!" As Fuzz says the 6.00 news is quite often more graphic and disturbing. We shall prevail lol
CigarAsh Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I never had a problem with my kids watching most any movies because of violence and general gross scenes. At one point I turned to them and said "You guys do know this stuff is all just fake and acting, right?". They looked at me like I was a complete moron (which apparently is true) and said "Geez dad, we're not stupid, it's just a movie."
cigcars Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 While enjoying Christopher Lee's "Dracula" movies for the Halloween season and reading you all's comments above, I'm reminded of what Mr. Lee said about complaints of the "violence" in his movies. He said, "There's more violence in 3 minutes of a (James) Bond film than there is in all my movies combined!"
Orion21 Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 They've seen a lot worse on the internet I promise you, unless you have parental control filters.
Marker Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Cartoons are much worse. Spongebob is a travesty. The attitudes that most of the current batch of cartoons show your children are worse than you showing your kids some adult violence. As long as you explain it to them or they understand the context. Team America... yeah the wife was right. That is not fit for kids or most adults I know.
mash Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Ok we all do it from time to time Picking up a couple of vids for my youngest son Tom this past weekend. He is12. Watching great vids is one of our passions. Team America....I loved it. Wife shut it sown at the 20 minute mark. The puppet sex scene doesn't help Apocalypso (Mel Gibson) .....seriously...was Harrisons Fords movies "Indiana Jones" more gruesome (pulling heart out of chest scene?) Ang culled it after 30 minutes. What is a dad to do? As I tell my son G rating ....Gross PG ....Pretty good M....magnificent (possibly) MA 15+ (Mighty awesome) R ( Ripper) Does it make me a bad dad? Bill Maher made a comment about the puppet sex scene in Team America. He said it's just like married sex, which is why he's single. It's wooden and there's strings attached.
ckearns Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 I'm not quite there in my parenting, Rob. My wee guy is still a pup, but I know I'll have a similar outlook as you when the time comes. Thanks for sharing your story and I look forward to buying a copy of your parenting book.
smokum Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 There are tv shows that I just can't sit thru with the kids. I think I'm just getting old . I'll take Dean Martin and Rowan and Martins Laugh In to anything they have one the boob tube now. I' m no prude by far...but damn some of these shows are nasty.
CanuckSARTech Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 I'm not quite there with my little guy yet either. He just turned 4 this past July, and he just started Junior Kindergarten this fall. However, while out at the store a few weeks ago, he did get my attention while we were out shopping, and then point to two mid-20's-something ladies. They were both wearing ultra tight and lovely Lulu Lemon yoga pants, and it was a sight to behold. My little guy's comment? "Daddy, those girls are pretty, right?" Mmmmmmmyes. Yes, son, there is a Santa Claus. Then.... "Daddy, how come Mommy doesn't wear that?" Oh, she definitely could, but I only wish, bud. Now you go ask her for Daddy, so Daddy doesn't have to explain his mind of thinking and get in dung. My little guy's gonna be a PhD someday.
CigarAsh Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 I think kids are a lot more perceptive than we give them credit for. With an adult present they get the difference between reality and play acting pretty well. Once my sons had seen a little violence on tv and in movies with me monitoring I felt pretty comfortable that they were watching just for the cool and grossness factor, like me. One TV show that really caught me by surprise was a cartoon called Family Guy. They had been watching it a while before I saw an episode. If there was ever a show that pushes all boundaries of decency, it's got to be this one. It's funny as hell, but sometimes I can't believe the things they do in that show.
dicko Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Kids will see high rated material one way or the other. It's probably better with a parent at home than at school on someone's iPhone.
jay8354 Posted November 4, 2012 Posted November 4, 2012 I think Rob, your mistake is starting with the new modern stuff first. You need to hit the classics and cult movies with the same or more amounts of violence. Think old kung fu flicks, spag westerns... the stuff where when they going to off someone, you know it.
frenchkiwi Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Bill Maher made a comment about the puppet sex scene in Team America. He said it's just like married sex, which is why he's single. It's wooden and there's strings attached. along similar lines, i am just getting my significant other to agree to playing with "guns" ie water pistols with our toddler. recent pirate sword fights have not been met with approval. i will concede that watching boxing on tv is not fit for his eyes ... yet.
Milan Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Being a young'un myself, I remember my mum having this argument with my Dad. Saying that, I feel like I had a very balanced upbringing, albeit one where censorship was never an issue, both my Dad and I (Probably a result of my upbringing LOL) never understood the need for censorship. I think the point many people make in this situation, where you need to make sure the kids understand the difference between reality and fiction, is the simplest and most effective way of dealing with it. I also personally think it is an insult to the intelligence and perception of children to assume they can't differentiate.
davidsan Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 I remember watching all Van Damme, Arnie, Segal movies as a kid. My dad didnt want me to watch Pulp Fiction or trainspotting but I ended up seeing them when they came out. I'm an 87 baby (25) to give you an idea how old I was when these came out. I was right into Aliens and Predator. Never had a problem with it, I think the main thing is that my old man explained to me what was happening or gave me some context about movie's in general which helped me to form an opinion about what was happening in these movies and the moral side. I was never into Horror movies back then and still don't watch them. I don't think there is much value in letting a kid watch something like the SAW movies - I don't think there is any value in anyone watching those sorts of movies.
PigFish Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 What do they say in the public school system? It is okay if it is educational!!! I teach my grandkids how to draw naked women in 3ds Max (AutoCAD). This way, someday, they may be making money off those games that kids play so much! -Piggy
Orion21 Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 With a young son (2) I am very sensitive to this issue. He already reacts to things he sees on TV in good and bad ways. Personally I don't want to raise a desensitized zombie of a child just because he "will see it somewhere." Speaking from personal observation the biggest POS kids I have known or know are the ones that play violent video games, get to watch violent/sexual tv shows or movies and have unrestricted access to the internet. As parents it is our job to actually parent our children - to instill in them a strong conscience connected to morals and values. I humbly submit that a "hands off" attitude towards something as simple as what movie to rent is a slippery slope. Obviously I am not condoning shutting them away in their room with no access to the outside world, but we need to understand that every violent act they see on tv, or woman displayed in an overly sexualized manner impacts them and will affect what kind of person they are when grown. To answer Rob's OP I believe both movies were inappropriate. I have seen both and I think in the future you might want to repeat this saying in your head "WWAD?" Would Would Ang Do . . . Cheers! And make sure to kiss your children and tell them you love and are proud of them everyday
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