THE PARANORMAL

[MIKA27]

Hi all.

This may be a little way out there but seeing we have such a large family here at FOH from various walks of life and creeds, I just wished to know if anyone here believes in the Paranormal?

By paranormal, this can include UFO's, ghosts, things that go bump in the night, the unexplained........

If you do, please share your thoughts.

[mkz]

My wife can tell when I am lying... Thats just spooky!

[MIKA27]

My wife can tell when I am lying... Thats just spooky!

All wives must be 'linked' to the same channel!

[reg]

absolutely not

[shrink]

My wife can tell when I am lying...

I asked her how she could tell when you were lying, and she said...

"When his lips are moving".

[Jimmy2]

Well i have seen stuff since i was a kid living at home (parents) also the place where i live now is haunted but it does not hurt anyone in my family so we dont mind.

I use to tell my wife this place i live in now was spooked (seen shawdows ,figures and noises) as i have seen many things here she would laugh at me. Until she seen something after 6 years living here a brown shadow 3 times moving past the hallway stairs from living room doorway..

You may think i am nuts !! LOL But my wife is not thats for sure....Their is alot of unexplained things out their so i try to keep an open mind about stuff like this..

[Colt45]

To a certain extent I believe in intuition.

[JMH]

Don't believe in ghosts. Never seem to hear stories of animal ghosts, only people - why would that be?

Do believe that life exists elsewhere in the universe, but don't believe that our planet has been visited by extremely advanced civilisations.

[Colt45]

Do believe that life exists elsewhere in the universe, but don't believe that our planet has been visited by extremely advanced civilisations.

I don't believe our planet is inhabited by extremely advanced civilisations

[JMH]

Haha, neither do I.

[Fuzz AI]

I'm always open to the idea that there is more to the universe than what we know. With greater knowledge comes greater understanding. One day we may find extraterrestial life, or see what lies beyond death. Until that time, I'll keep an open mind and wait for tangible proof.

[OZCUBAN]

WE ARE NOT ALONE

[Hugomarink]

I believe there are things going on this universe that are beyond our comprehension, so I guess anything is possible. While I don't necessarily believe in ghosts, UFOs, or magical powers, I do buy it that some people have heightened senses that enable them to more effectively tune into some of the energies, vibrations, frequencies (or whatever) that surround us and are a part of our existence in this universe. For whatever that's worth.

[cigcars]

Don't believe in ghosts. Never seem to hear stories of animal ghosts, only people - why would that be?

Do believe that life exists elsewhere in the universe, but don't believe that our planet has been visited by extremely advanced civilisations.

*When I was a young adult (very early 20's) we had cats, thanks to my mom who saw a little white mouse one day. One of the cats I personally raised got real, real sick, then finally left home & never returned... At night in my bed, regularly afterwards, I would feel the weight of little feet walking on me. She did that when she was alive. Ever since she disappeared...I would feel the weight of little feet (no one there) walking on me. exact same area. briefly for a time. then stop. I wasn't afrighted by this. I just figured, Sweatpea had just come back. What can one say? Very true story of very true occurrence.

[phxkev]

1. When I was five, I wouldn't walk across a bridge, telling my grandmother that it was going to collapse. The next July 4th, it collapsed, sending dozens into the water below.

2. After spending some time with The Amazing Kreskin, I correctly "guessed" the last four digits of a woman's phone number.

3. I stopped folding laundry one day and without thinking, picked up the phone and called an ex girlfriend and I immediately asked her if she had anything to tell me. We hadn't spoken in two years. She was shocked and said she was about to call me to tell me she was getting married.

For whatever that's worth.

[MIKA27]

Well I only believe in things that have to an extent some fact behind it and as such, I do believe in ghosts, UFO's as there is way too much stuff around for centuries that all depict these occurrences.

Way before man could email, Skype, fly a plane etc, there were paintings in caves all around the globe depicting strange air craft or spirts etc. Even literature.

Just because science can not prove it with our primitive technology (No matter how advanced we think we may be) perhaps one day when we really do 'catch up' science will find a way to solve this mystery?

Perhaps UFO's don't come from other planets?

What happened to Einsteins idea that there were multi-dimensions? (He believed there are 7.)

What if UFO's, ghosts are from a different dimension which in turn can describe the way UFO's can fly so fast and just vanish?

The unknown as we know it and don't know it is a HUGE mystery and as such, I too have an open mind.

You honestly can't believe that over the last say 100 years, of all the sightings of ghosts, UFO's and the like are either made up (Hoaxes) or imaginings of humans. Even if you can say 98% is false, that still leaves 2% of substance to sightings or peoples experiences....?

Food for thought. (IMO)

[Kangaroo495]

The idea of UFOs really appeals to me. It's such a cool story - starting from Roswell and then gripping the whole planet. Objectively, I dont' really believe it - on the other hand...

[Stalebread]

I don't believe our planet is inhabited by extremely advanced civilisations

On a side note -- Lily Tomlin's one-woman show The Search For Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, was a great show. I saw it when she revived it in 2001(?). Outstanding.

[Stalebread]

To a certain extent I believe in intuition.

Me, too, if you define intution as being aware of something before you're aware that you're aware of it. Or something like that (precognitive awareness ?). Intuition isn't the same thing as paranormal.

[Padrino]

Don't believe in ghosts. Never seem to hear stories of animal ghosts, only people - why would that be?

Animals are more "pure" for lack of a better word, they are not held back by the human frailties of regret, revenge, anger, shame, hate etc. and when they pass on (ie. die) they have no reason to remain behind in spirit form, except maybe to briefly say "goodbye" to it's master if you will and then move on.

[Stalebread]

I am often intrigued at how people link things together that are not necessarily linked, or not really linked at all. Just because "B" follows "A" doesn't mean that "A" caused "B". Just because "A" and "B" are close together doesn't mean that they have any other relationship except they are close together.

Occasionally I visit a country in which water is scarce. Several years ago one segment of the population made a big deal out of praying for rain. They prayed for three years and still there was no rain. And then one year it rained a lot. That group of people said, "See? We made it rain?" Huh?

Personally, I don't believe in the paranormal -- no ghosts, no UFOs, no fortune-tellers. Yes, there are lots of things that cannot be explained with our current level of science but that does not mean they are caused by alien beings or ghosts or gods.

I do think that there could be other dimensions and there are potential explainations for multi-dimensions in physics. If CERN ever gets the Large Hadron Collider going at full tilt, science may learn a lot more about multi-dimensions.

[Stalebread]

. . . Way before man could email, Skype, fly a plane etc, there were paintings in caves all around the globe depicting strange air craft or spirts etc. . . .

Interesting that you mention cave art. I'm currently reading Cave Paintings and The Human Spirit: The Origin of Creativity and Belief by David Whitley. He talks alot about shamanism and the iconology of the art but does not mention UFOs.

Ufologists often point to some early Christian and Byzantine art to support their idea that UFOs were somehow involved with the birth of Christ or something. But the iconography the UFOers point to is easily explained/understood when it is taken in a larger context of belief and imagery of the times. (It has to do with images of the moon and sun -- not early spaceships.) I don't know about the cave art but it's an interesting notion and I'll look into it more.

[JMH]

Way before man could email, Skype, fly a plane etc, there were paintings in caves all around the globe depicting strange air craft or spirts etc. Even literature.

Just because science can not prove it with our primitive technology (No matter how advanced we think we may be) perhaps one day when we really do 'catch up' science will find a way to solve this mystery?

You honestly can't believe that over the last say 100 years, of all the sightings of ghosts, UFO's and the like are either made up (Hoaxes) or imaginings of humans. Even if you can say 98% is false, that still leaves 2% of substance to sightings or peoples experiences....?

Food for thought. (IMO)

Why would you assume that those paintings were inspired by actual events? People have powerful imaginations, it's one of the reasons we have been so successful as a species. As stalebread mentions, when we look at ancient art, our interpretation of it is influenced by the society/culture which we live in. It could have a completely different meaning in the cultural context in which it was created.

As for UFO sightings, yes I do think that all of them are either made up or a case of mistaken identity. I think it is incorrect to assume that just because there have been a number of sightings, that some of them have to be genuine. If other species have developed the technology that makes serious interstellar travel possible why would they not make any contact with us, or at least come down and survey the planet for long enough for them to be seen clearly? It seems all they want to do is hang around in the upper atmosphere for a few seconds before disappearing at high speed. Surely life can't be that common across the universe that this planet is not worth more than a cursory glance?

If I remember correctly, the universe is thought to be about 13-14 billion years old. Given that, and the size of the universe, the chance of an incredibly intelligent species evolving and existing at the same time as humans, and finding our planet is fairly remote. Let alone several different species, if varying eye-witness accounts are to be believed.

[JMH]

Animals are more "pure" for lack of a better word, they are not held back by the human frailties of regret, revenge, anger, shame, hate etc. and when they pass on (ie. die) they have no reason to remain behind in spirit form, except maybe to briefly say "goodbye" to it's master if you will and then move on.

Yeah, but for that to be true, you have to make the assumption that there is some kind of afterlife, and that we (or some part of us) has some control over it.

[Geo17pip]

Check out this video, its long so you might want to skip through it. Hard not to believe that there isnt other life in the Universe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk