Wil Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 http://www.news.com.au/national-news/challenge-to-aust-plain-package-tobacco/story-fncynjr2-1226636297784 Could be good timing with the imminent change of government?
Duxnutz Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I wonder if there's a new syndrome of suffering anxiety from all the graphic health warning?
OZCUBAN Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Interesting article WIL but i guess it will amount to nothing ,but one can only hope ,to be honest i would rather see a drop in the horrendous TAX we pay in OZ thanks for posting
TheBaron Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Interesting article WIL but i guess it will amount to nothing ,but one can only hope ,to be honest i would rather see a drop in the horrendous TAX we pay in OZ thanks for posting X2 Ironically enough, not holding my breath.
Wil Posted May 6, 2013 Author Posted May 6, 2013 Interesting article WIL but i guess it will amount to nothing ,but one can only hope ,to be honest i would rather see a drop in the horrendous TAX we pay in OZ thanks for posting Yep, probably right. It would be nice if the challenge coincided with Abbott being elected, and he just scrapped it. We can always dream...
sharks Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I concur with the above posts, but it's not going to happen. It would be great to see a reduction in tax although no government is gunna let go of the golden goose. Its a great money spinner and unfortunately in my opinion its only going to get worse. I imagine next thing they hit will be alchohol. Would be great to see the cubans kick the aussie gov's arse though
Duxnutz Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 It would be mildly ironic if the cuban legal team ending up cohesively defeating Australia's best legal muscle. I'd probably rip an abdominal muscle in giggles. On another note, it does give me hope if all the cigar manufacturers are together on it lobbying the WTO. The WHO (World Health Organisation) would be having kittens though if tobacco had any little legal victory but they are pretty much against everything its seems these days.
sengjc Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 This is noted: "In the event that the WTO's disputes settlement body finds in their favour, it would have the power to authorise retaliatory trade measures against Australia if the country failed to fall into line." I wonder, what possible retaliatory trade measure can possibly be implemented...
DrunkenMonkey Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Retaliatory trade measures would be tariffs on Australian exports to Cuba. That's standard practice when countries are found guilty of breaking their WTO obligations and then ignore the verdict.
LLC Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Cuba is the last of the three major cigar countries to challenge this.
CanuckSARTech Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Cuba is the last of the three major cigar countries to challenge this. LOL. You weren't expecting them to actually be first to the table for something like this, were you?!!?!?
LLC Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 LOL. You weren't expecting them to actually be first to the table for something like this, were you?!!?!? Of course not, their on Cuban time
CanuckSARTech Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Of course not, their on Cuban time LOL. For sure! Since nothing is ever "official" or set in stone from them, I'm still waiting on them to release the Trinidad Robusto T's tubos...
David67 Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 This will not budge the Australian Government one bit. Sadly I forsee a time when cigars will be a thing of past in Australia. 20 years ago would you have thought we would be where we are now? What about 20 years hence?
El Presidente Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 This will not budge the Australian Government one bit. Sadly I forsee a time when cigars will be a thing of past in Australia. 20 years ago would you have thought we would be where we are now? What about 20 years hence? Legally, possibly. Glass half full mate...glass half full.
AndrewNR Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Legally, possibly. Glass half full mate...glass half full. If cigars are outlawed... Only outlaws will have cigars! And then how will we protect ourselves? Swashbucklers!
sengjc Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Retaliatory trade measures would be tariffs on Australian exports to Cuba. That's standard practice when countries are found guilty of breaking their WTO obligations and then ignore the verdict. Ok...what does Australia export to Cuba in sufficient volumes such that a tariff imposed would be significantly severe to force Australia to repeal the plain packaging law in the event of a guilty verdict? I fear the plain packaging law is here to stay.
DrunkenMonkey Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Ok...what does Australia export to Cuba in sufficient volumes such that a tariff imposed would be significantly severe to force Australia to repeal the plain packaging law in the event of a guilty verdict? I fear the plain packaging law is here to stay. Good point. I assumed there must be a good amount of stuff, but it looks like only about 7 million dollars per year total, mostly agricultural exports.
TheBaron Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Why can't adults just be treated a such? Bloody killjoys.
IcedCanuck Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Why can't adults just be treated a such? Bloody killjoys. 'Big brother' always seems to think he knows best.
CaptainQuintero Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Ok...what does Australia export to Cuba in sufficient volumes such that a tariff imposed would be significantly severe to force Australia to repeal the plain packaging law in the event of a guilty verdict? I fear the plain packaging law is here to stay. Internationally Oz seems to trade on it's image as a happy go friendly, family land of awesome beaches and laid back folks (As their international ambassadors aka barmen/lifeguards spread this around ), maybe to those in charge, the idea of this image being tarnished by a messy legal case would be enough for them to repeal?
David67 Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 Legally, possibly. Glass half full mate...glass half full. I know Rob, Just I know governments. If it were not for you I would have given up cigars last year.
Duxnutz Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 Internationally Oz seems to trade on it's image as a happy go friendly, family land of awesome beaches and laid back folks (As their international ambassadors aka barmen/lifeguards spread this around ), maybe to those in charge, the idea of this image being tarnished by a messy legal case would be enough for them to repeal? Sadly (here in NSW-east coast of Australia) there ain't much about that which is true anymore. Beaches yes but Sydney is anything but. Expensive, hostile and quickly turning into a nanny state.
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