cuban vs non cuban

[peanutking]

i smoke cuban cigars for almost 5 years now and they are great... however recently i wondered about how the non cubans taste like... their prices are almost the same as cubans where i live(australia)... so far i've tasted a few from CAO a few from puros indios, ghurkas and macanudo... and i find them not as good as the cubans...my fav are (HDM epicure1 and cohiba siglo 3)

am i smoking the wrong non cubans? or they simply just dont have what it takes to rival cubans?

[smokum]

Totally different experience IMO...nothing else in world like cuban tobacco. I'm sure there are many NC that are very good. Just different.

[jadawin]

For me there are some good NCs out there, but they all have a very different flavor profile compared to a Cuban. What i smoke depends on what flavor im in the mood for, some days its CC and some days its not. For non cubans, i suggest:

Tatuaje (brown label)

Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic

Olivia V

Ashton VSG

Illusione

[brian1]

The only NC I always keep a box of on hand are the Padron Anniversary 1964's. Love those for a change of pace from time to time.

[anacostiakat]

» i smoke cuban cigars for almost 5 years now and they are great... however

» recently i wondered about how the non cubans taste like... their prices

» are almost the same as cubans where i live(australia)... so far i've

» tasted a few from CAO a few from puros indios, ghurkas and macanudo... and

» i find them not as good as the cubans...my fav are (HDM epicure1 and cohiba

» siglo 3)

»

» am i smoking the wrong non cubans? or they simply just dont have what it

» takes to rival cubans?

Yes you are smoking the wrong non-cubans.

Padron Anniversario 64 & 26 (I like the maduro)

Fuente Opusx & Anejo

Tatuaje

Cabaiguan

Ashton VSG

are just a few of the ones I like and smoke. There are others according to your taste.

[IShotAManInReno]

The only non-Cuban that I sometimes enjoy is the Padron 1926 Maduro. It is very different from most Cubans, which is why it is a nice change of pace from time to time.

The problem, though, is that these are prohibitively expensive. I recently paid $32 USD for a single stick at a local shop. At that price, I could have gotten an Esplendido or similar. This top-of-the-line Padron, while good, can't compete with a top-of-the-line Cohiba.

[anacostiakat]

» The only non-Cuban that I sometimes enjoy is the Padron 1926 Maduro.

» It is very different from most Cubans, which is why it is a nice change of

» pace from time to time.

»

» The problem, though, is that these are prohibitively expensive. I

» recently paid $32 USD for a single stick at a local shop. At that price,

» I could have gotten an Esplendido or similar. This top-of-the-line

» Padron, while good, can't compete with a top-of-the-line Cohiba.

Blame your state taxes and/or retailer. I dont pay that where I am at. I smoke them sometimes and enjoy them. I like diversity.

Anyway, that is why they make vanilla and chocolate ice cream. :-D

[bassman]

My main problem with NCs is that many will taste good to start, but about halfway down start to taste harsh & metallic. Also those premium NCs cost MORE than most Cubans. That being said, I do enjoy an occaisional Tatuaje brown label (the Noellas are my fav) and for an enjoyable cheaper smoke, the corona sized NC Sancho Panza Double Maduro.

[ArloGut]

If I am not smoking Habanos then the only NC that is a must have in the humidor is Arturo Fuente Don Carlos Belicoso, #2's or Double Robosto. Ohh and of course any Opus X. :-)

[rudder]

» For me there are some good NCs out there, but they all have a very

» different flavor profile compared to a Cuban. What i smoke depends on what

» flavor im in the mood for, some days its CC and some days its not. For non

» cubans, i suggest:

»

» Tatuaje (brown label)

» Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic

» Olivia V

» Ashton VSG

» Illusione

DITTO;-)

I would add the Padron Anniversary, Opus X and Cabiguan.

I wouldnt be upset though if all I ever smoked were CC's:-D

[yossie]

» Padron Anniversario 64 & 26 (I like the maduro)

» Fuente Opusx & Anejo

» Tatuaje

» Cabaiguan

» Ashton VSG

Many of them are not sold here but I have smoked all why?:-D

Padron , OpusX and VSG are worth to try IMO.

[ArloGut]

» Many of them are not sold here but I have smoked all why?:-D

» Padron , OpusX and VSG are worth to try IMO.

If you wern't so far away Yossie I'd send you a few AF Don Carlos I think you would enjoy them. Heck cost me 100.00 just to ship.

[jdbrown]

You nailed that one Bassman. Exactly why for me it's a waste of $$!

[yossie]

» » Many of them are not sold here but I have smoked all why?:-D

» » Padron , OpusX and VSG are worth to try IMO.

»

» If you wern't so far away Yossie I'd send you a few AF Don Carlos I think

» you would enjoy them. Heck cost me 100.00 just to ship.

I'm really pleased to hear your offer but My humidor is currently filled..:crying:

[billyh79]

Although very different in taste, I agree with the 64 maduro by Padron as well as the 1926 natural. Opus are great if they have a few years(like many habanos) and tats are great.

» » » Many of them are not sold here but I have smoked all why?:-D

» » » Padron , OpusX and VSG are worth to try IMO.

» »

» » If you wern't so far away Yossie I'd send you a few AF Don Carlos I

» think

» » you would enjoy them. Heck cost me 100.00 just to ship.

» I'm really pleased to hear your offer but My humidor is currently

» filled..:crying:

[Colt45]

» am i smoking the wrong non cubans? or they simply just dont have what it

» takes to rival cubans?

We have these discussions from time to time - I recently mentioned an NC that I enjoyed myself.

But at the end of the day, if I may use a wine analogy, it's kind of like saying I love French Bordeaux

from the St. Julien AC. Recently, I tried some Italian wine from the Rosso Piceno DOC of the Marche

region. It didn't really taste like the Bordeaux.

It shouldn't.

[peanutking]

» » am i smoking the wrong non cubans? or they simply just dont have what it

» » takes to rival cubans?

»

» We have these discussions from time to time - I recently mentioned an NC

» that I enjoyed myself.

» But at the end of the day, if I may use a wine analogy, it's kind of like

» saying I love French Bordeaux

» from the St. Julien AC. Recently, I tried some Italian wine from the Rosso

» Piceno DOC of the Marche

» region. It didn't really taste like the Bordeaux.

»

» It shouldn't.

well said... gonna stick to my cubans and order a box of vsgs... opusX are a little too expensive... any other NC suggestions for a cuban smoker might like?

[gostgost]

One of the best NC cigars for me are the Padrons, 26 and I just had a 80th year which was a killer cigar and will stock up on those.

Dae.

[GoSteelers]

Have to agree with alot of others here(tatuaje, illusione, padron) but would also ad Perdomo to the list especially ESV 91 natural and maduro.

[Rogers72]

I also like the Padron 3000 ok for the money. It is usually around $5 a stick and very easy to find so I ususally smoke one on the golf course, fishing, etc. when I just want a good, relatively cheap, simple smoke. I think all of thier regular line (2000, 3000, etc.) are a pretty good bargain. For pure smoking ejoyment though, I have given up on NC's for the most part.

[dmuchow]

call me crazy but the NC Punch Pitas at the halfway point taste like a Siglo III only mild on the cocoa. Then again the Siglos only have 1.5 yrs on them.

[aavkk]

I started smoking Padron anny's and still smoke them about 5% of the time. The 26's are a ballbuster ROTT with lots of flavor. My preference is to lay down the 26's a year or 2. The 64's IMO need to be smoked relatively young. Perdomo had a great lineup of sticks 6-8 years ago but now there quality control absolutely sucks. Tatuaje's are wannabe cubans which does nothing for me, why not just smoke the real deal. Once I found a reputable vendor for cubans my decision on what to smoke (CC vs NC) was a no brainer.

[tigger]

» » am i smoking the wrong non cubans? or they simply just dont have what it

» » takes to rival cubans?

»

» We have these discussions from time to time - I recently mentioned an NC

» that I enjoyed myself.

» But at the end of the day, if I may use a wine analogy, it's kind of like

» saying I love French Bordeaux

» from the St. Julien AC. Recently, I tried some Italian wine from the Rosso

» Piceno DOC of the Marche

» region. It didn't really taste like the Bordeaux.

»

» It shouldn't.

A very apt analogy IMO.

[Claudius]

» i smoke cuban cigars for almost 5 years now and they are great... however

» recently i wondered about how the non cubans taste like...

Hi peanutking

I've smoked a few NCs (the supposedly "good ones", Davidoff, Don Pepin Garcia, etc.) and I can tell you what they taste like:

- hot air

- hay

- metal

- feces

- a combination of the above

[peanutking]

» » i smoke cuban cigars for almost 5 years now and they are great...

» however

» » recently i wondered about how the non cubans taste like...

»

»

» Hi peanutking

»

» I've smoked a few NCs (the supposedly "good ones", Davidoff, Don Pepin

» Garcia, etc.) and I can tell you what they taste like:

» - hot air

» - hay

» - metal

» - feces

» - a combination of the above

hehe... the puros indios churchill i had does taste like grass and hot air... the macanudo maduro taste like hot air with a touch of chocolate and poo... yet to taste anything i like yet... puros indios are acceptable because they have a little more oaklike woody aroma and a little almond and cumin that i like in them but still.... far from the flavours i get from the cubans i tried... as for construction, NC does put some of the cubans to shame... like the le hoyo de dieux... its good but a the appearance can be improved