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I do not have codes as I only have the one 3 pack.

Very nicely constructed, firm with proper heft in the hand. A strong smell of cedar cold, but

this was from the cedar tube lining and did not show during smoking.

Light-medium colorado wrapper with a hint of tooth. Relatively vein free. Draw, burn, and smoke

volume were all excellent.

My overall impression of this cigar is of rich, sweet tobacco, just a bit of pepper spice, with an overlay

of light cherry. It was not quite full bodied, but more full than medium.

Very smooth, well balanced, and nicely integrated. It really didn't change much over the course of

the smoke until near the end, where the finish became just a bit arid, with the flavors subsiding.

I really enjoyed it, and actually was taken by surprise just a bit. I give it a 90 - this may sound odd,

but that's with deducting a couple of points for the 50 ring gauge. Because I haven't been smoking

anything thicker than 47 as of late, especially without a tapered head, this felt like I was smoking

a baseball bat. Subjectivity at it's less than finest :-)

Posted

Nice review, Colt. And I agree, this is one of the most welcome additions to the RyJ stable. It's every bit as good as the celebrated Churchill, and more likely to get selected, because of its size.

I can't wait for these to age a few years. I'll bet that they're crackers, as Rob might say.

Posted

I picked up two boxes of June 07. I have only sampled two and the last was a tad ill but I would bet my life that they are future crackers.

Posted

Well, I guess I have to go against the grain on this one.

I do not find these to be full or medium/full bodied at all. Mild/Medium at best is what I have gotten from the couple of the tubed versions that I have tried.

It could be that I am/was expecting a short version of the churchill and that is clearly not what I got. I can understand why it is not but it still does not affect my disappointment.

I agree they are well made and they may age well. I will revisit later and decide to hold or fold.

Posted

I have not smoked the tubed version but I have a box of Short Churchills (SRB ABR 06) and have found them to be mild and with very little flavor. I think that they are beautiful cigars, but I have been disappointed to date.

Posted

This is a cigar that I'll be keeping my eyes on. If I knew they'd all be as good as this one sample,

I'd have no hesitations with a box. But I know one cigar does not a box make.

My hope is that as members smoke more of these, they'll post their thoughts.

Posted

Haven't had one since the summer months, but I really like this cigar as well. Of the 06's, the only one yet that I've found lacking was the one I had OTT. These just get better, and am looking forward to comparing the 07s. I feel I should do a direct comparison but I feel the A/Ts seem to be improving slightly better than the dress box, but that's probably just my aesthetic perception.

Posted

I feel the A/Ts seem to

» be improving slightly better than the dress box, but that's probably just

» my aesthetic perception.

You're not alone in that conclusion. Initially, I got boxes of each, but I'll be buying AT's exclusively from now on.

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Posted

» I have not smoked the tubed version but I have a box of Short Churchills

» (SRB ABR 06) and have found them to be mild and with very little flavor.

» I think that they are beautiful cigars, but I have been disappointed to

» date.

I had a similar experience. I bought a couple of tubed R&J Short Churchills to sample and they were awesome. Then I bought a 10-pack dress box and they've been much milder and less flavorful. Almost seems like a different cigar. I will let them sit for a while and try them again before making a final determination on these.

Posted

» I feel the A/Ts seem to

» » be improving slightly better than the dress box, but that's probably

» just

» » my aesthetic perception.

»

» You're not alone in that conclusion. Initially, I got boxes of each, but

» I'll be buying AT's exclusively from now on.

My thoughts exactly. Frankly I found the A/T a much better smoke. I have been disappointed with the dress box specimens. Haven't touched them in a while . May be time to revisit the DB and see if they have come along.

Posted

» » I'll be buying AT's exclusively from now on.

»

» My thoughts exactly. Frankly I found the A/T a much better smoke. I have

» been disappointed with the dress box specimens. Haven't touched them in a

» while . May be time to revisit the DB and see if they have come along.

Damn! Everyone was saved from a giant post I did, because my computer went haywire when I tried to post it. This will be more palatable anyway:

1) this discussion is interesting

2) I tried the Short Churchill (dress box) first last November, and have since smoked through that box and three tubos.

3) I am not sure I think the tubos I tried are better than the box, but I prefer a round cigar more than a box pressed cigar. The Short Churchills from a dress box are quite pressed. This did not stop me from getting six boxes from the Czar during the current sale/raffle.

4) I think it is medium+, certainly not mild.

5) I am always trying to find a daily smoker - something that pleases me most of the time, is not too expensive, carry's easily, is not something I will feel awful about stopping short if the situation calls... - For me, this cigar hit that zone.

5) Anybody want a chance to try one? I will send out 24 to the first 24 PM's I get on this. I will try one from the box to ensure one in the box is at least the same as what I have tried in the past.

Cheers,

DC

Posted

» » » I'll be buying AT's exclusively from now on.

» »

» » My thoughts exactly. Frankly I found the A/T a much better smoke. I

» have

» » been disappointed with the dress box specimens. Haven't touched them in

» a

» » while . May be time to revisit the DB and see if they have come along.

»

» Damn! Everyone was saved from a giant post I did, because my computer went

» haywire when I tried to post it. This will be more palatable anyway:

»

» 1) this discussion is interesting

» 2) I tried the Short Churchill (dress box) first last November, and have

» since smoked through that box and three tubos.

» 3) I am not sure I think the tubos I tried are better than the box, but I

» prefer a round cigar more than a box pressed cigar. The Short Churchills

» from a dress box are quite pressed. This did not stop me from getting six

» boxes from the Czar during the current sale/raffle.

» 4) I think it is medium+, certainly not mild.

» 5) I am always trying to find a daily smoker - something that pleases me

» most of the time, is not too expensive, carry's easily, is not something I

» will feel awful about stopping short if the situation calls... - For me,

» this cigar hit that zone.

» 5) Anybody want a chance to try one? I will send out 24 to the first 24

» PM's I get on this. I will try one from the box to ensure one in the box

» is at least the same as what I have tried in the past.

»

» Cheers,

» DC

Not a single response yet in PM's. Don't worry, I do not bite.... I need to get some sleep. I hope to hear from some of my FOH BTFL when I get up in the morning... This offer is open to anyone..... Even if you have some or have tried them recently..

Cheers,

DC

Posted

I WAS going to PM you but then realised you were in the states and shipping to australia would cost more than the cigar :-D so i'm just gonna get some from the czar or locally if i have time

Posted

I have 3 sticks left, the remnants of a dress box UAS 9/06 that i split with a friend. The entire box has been fantastic, rich, flavorful, nutty and just darn tasty. :-)

Hoping to buy another soon........

Posted

» 5) Anybody want a chance to try one? I will send out 24 to the first 24

» PM's I get on this. I will try one from the box to ensure one in the box

» is at least the same as what I have tried in the past.

»

» Cheers,

» DC

I found several responses in my Junk Mail filter and have just responded to them all. There are still smokes left in this offer, if you want to try it. When you PM me, if you include the address you want the smoke sent to, I will take care of it this week.

Cheers,

DC

Posted

» » 5) Anybody want a chance to try one? I will send out 24 to the first 24

» » PM's I get on this. I will try one from the box to ensure one in the

» box

» » is at least the same as what I have tried in the past.

» »

» » Cheers,

» » DC

»

» I found several responses in my Junk Mail filter and have just responded

» to them all. There are still smokes left in this offer, if you want to try

» it. When you PM me, if you include the address you want the smoke sent to,

» I will take care of it this week.

»

» Cheers,

» DC

Well I was going to mail these out today, until my wife pointed out the post office was closed for President's Day...

Two things on the Romeo Y Julieta Short Churchill freebie offer:

1) this offer has changed (for the better). Instead of just sending out a box pressed RyJ Short Churchill to each of you, I have decided to send one Box Pressed and one Tubo to each respondent. I ask you review them and let me or preferably everyone on FOH know what you thought of both, as a smoke in general, and in comparison to each other. Nothing formal required.

2) If I get a response from anyone who wants in to this free tasting today, I will include you. Offer expires at 6am, Pacific Time, Tuesday, February 19, 2008. That is 12.5 hours from now.

Cigars go out priority mail Tuesday, 2/19.

Cheers,

DC

Posted

Peter, I'm up for this if you're still looking for guinea pigs. :-D

I will return fire with a couple of smokes as well. Will e-mail from work addy in the am. TD

Posted

» Peter, I'm up for this if you're still looking for guinea pigs. :-D

»

» I will return fire with a couple of smokes as well. Will e-mail from work

» addy in the am. TD

TD -

As usual, I am running late and would be glad to add you, but I have not received your address yet in a PM. I have a pair of smokes ready to go out for you. Let me know.

DC

Posted

»Instead of just sending out a box pressed RyJ Short Churchill to each of you, I have decided to send one Box Pressed and one Tubo to each respondent. I ask you review them and let me or preferably everyone on FOH know what you thought of both, as a smoke in general, and in comparison to each other. Nothing formal required.

» Cheers,

» DC

DC:

Cigars received. :ok: Thanks a bunch. I'll let them rest a little bit before comparing and reviewing.

Return fire coming your way with some other R&Js. ;-)

-Steve

Posted

Tried one of them: since then I cant stop thinking about it.

Incredible to see such a vitola and then such a mild, harmonious aroma, great evolution and dense, firm ashes.

Looking forward to get some more!

Posted

Smoked another tubo from the same ones (JUL06) and noticed a distinct improvement. Better than the previous ones for sure.

Sadly the esposa loved it. Hence a box was ordered. :-)

Posted

» DC:

»

» Cigars received. :ok: Thanks a bunch. I'll let them rest a little bit

» before comparing and reviewing.

» Return fire coming your way with some other R&Js. ;-)

» -Steve

I am glad to hear they arrived. A return package will be appreciated, but is not necessary! This was not an offer for trade. Just an offer to try out a smoke I love.

Some people have asked about the box codes:

The Dress Box (pressed cigars) come from the Czar with a box code of SOA Jul 07. The Tubos came from another retailer (through 5th Avenue - the German Distributor,) but they did not come with codes on the Tubo 3 packs. They are likely from around the same time frame as the dressed box, perhaps younger.

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