CIGARHead Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Holy SH!T - Terrible the government is quickly eliminating cigar smoking. Oh, Sorry Jimmy -- early reporter gets the scoop;-) [link]http://www.sptimes.com/2007/07/17/Business/Cigarmakers_in_a_pani.shtml[/link]
servebig Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Does this mean that lifting the embargo will help to fund the US Healthcare system? What a frickin joke.
Jimmy2 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 CIGARHead read it early yesterday i don't think it will pass.
alexgtp Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 » CIGARHead read it early yesterday i don't think it will pass. hoepfully not because it will ruin other countries economies !! and my smoking habit!:-|
wp2 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 » CIGARHead read it early yesterday i don't think it will pass. Rumor has it Pres. Bush will veto it if passed.
Loki Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 » » Rumor has it Pres. Bush will veto it if passed. That would be the first good decision that he has made. Sorry I meant **** Cheney made.
Tampa1257 Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 » Holy SH!T - Terrible the government is quickly eliminating cigar smoking. » » Oh, Sorry Jimmy -- early reporter gets the scoop;-) » » [link]http://www.sptimes.com/2007/07/17/Business/Cigarmakers_in_a_pani.shtml[/link] This is a Serious Issue and should not be taken lightly! Cigarmakers in a panic The federal tax on each cigar could rise from 5 cents to $10. This move would be a death stroke for the Cigar Industry!!!!
Ben Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 That's insane surely the Anti-Tobacco Nazi's aren't that influential???
El Presidente Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 » That's insane surely the Anti-Tobacco Nazi's aren't that influential??? They are running out of money for pet programms. No government wants to increase income taxes and so "Sin" taxes take the hit. This is unlikely to be passed from what I have read however it is just the first assault on the wall. They will re-group and come again. The only way to stop them is to take their oxygen (power). Threaten their seats through voter intentions. In a make believe world I would love to see a senate candidates selected by the Sin Lobbies (cigar lovers, cigarette smokers, Gun lobby, fishing lobby, 4X4 lobby, Hotels/bars/casino lobby, Alcohol industry lobby, Sex workers lobby) whose sole design is to protect freedoms which pass the crucible of "people taking responsibility for their own actions" It would be a great political party promoting self responsibility, self regulation and reasonable taxation. It could be called the "Party Party Party Party" but I am thinking more along the lines of the "LFR Party" or Liberty Party (LFR) for short. Its charter would be: 1. To protect the interests and freedoms of average citizens. 2. To negotiate fair taxation and regulation for the good of all and not for the minority. 3. To seek out and expose government hypocrisy. 4. To be the arch enemy of non elected committees seeking to destroy a way of life. Now everyone within the organisation may not agree with the views of other groups within, but they all know that united they are 30% of the population, individually they are nought. In a preferrential voting system such as ours (Aust) it would be easier to do so as we only need 5% of the vote for a senate seat. Then you would have a hand at the table and even better, the other parties need you to pass legislation. I like to daydream on Wednesdays :-D
Trevor2118 Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 » This is a Serious Issue and should not be taken lightly! » » Cigarmakers in a panic » The federal tax on each cigar could rise from 5 cents to $10. » » This move would be a death stroke for the Cigar Industry!!!! You guys will be paying what we are over here (Australia) then.....:-D -------------------Seriously......
12stones Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 » You guys will be paying what we are over here (Australia) then.....:-D » -------------------Seriously...... And we definitely don't want that! ;-)
Wiley Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Do any of you Americans listen to NPR? That freaking ultra liberal moron Daniel Schorr was on there complaining at how Bush was against the children. If he loves the uninsured kids so much, why doesn't he freaking help pay for their insurance? I freaking hate "sin" taxes, even if I don't partake in a particular sin.
Bolivariano Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Well....it passed! It's all up to Bush now. Notice the vagueness of the last paragraph. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Senate panel OKs child health bill By KEVIN FREKING, Associated Press Writer ASHINGTON - A Senate committee brushed aside threats of a veto from President Bush in overwhelmingly approving on Thursday a $35 billion expansion of a children's health insurance program. ADVERTISEMENT The program subsidizes the cost of insurance for children and some adults with incomes too high for Medicaid but not high enough to afford private insurance. A majority of Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee joined all of the committee's Democrats in approving legislation to reauthorize the State Children's Health Insurance Program. The vote was 17-4. The committee's chairman, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., said the vote was a strong statement that lawmakers want to strengthen the program. "Millions of children have no health insurance," Baucus said. "There are more kids without health insurance than there are kids in the first and second grades. Americans overwhelmingly support getting kids covered." The additional funding for the program under the Senate proposal would bring total funding for SCHIP to $60 billion, which is double what the administration has proposed. The Senate bill pays for the expansion by increasing tobacco taxes. The tax on a pack of cigarettes would increase by 61 cents. Taxes on other cigars and chewing tobacco would also jump.
brian1 Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 I dont smoke domestics so personally couldnt care less, I wont be buying anyway. » Well....it passed! » It's all up to Bush now. » Notice the vagueness of the last paragraph. » --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- » » Senate panel OKs child health bill » » By KEVIN FREKING, Associated Press Writer » » ASHINGTON - A Senate committee brushed aside threats of a veto from » President Bush in overwhelmingly approving on Thursday a $35 billion » expansion of a children's health insurance program. » » ADVERTISEMENT » » The program subsidizes the cost of insurance for children and some adults » with incomes too high for Medicaid but not high enough to afford private » insurance. » » A majority of Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee joined all of » the committee's Democrats in approving legislation to reauthorize the » State Children's Health Insurance Program. The vote was 17-4. » » The committee's chairman, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., said the vote was a » strong statement that lawmakers want to strengthen the program. » » "Millions of children have no health insurance," Baucus said. "There are » more kids without health insurance than there are kids in the first and » second grades. Americans overwhelmingly support getting kids covered." » » The additional funding for the program under the Senate proposal would » bring total funding for SCHIP to $60 billion, which is double what the » administration has proposed. The Senate bill pays for the expansion by » increasing tobacco taxes. The tax on a pack of cigarettes would increase » by 61 cents. Taxes on other cigars and chewing tobacco would also jump.
zuma Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 » Well....it passed! » It's all up to Bush now. » Notice the vagueness of... Taxes on other cigars and chewing tobacco would also jump. Hmm... if cigar taxes and duties increase in the US, it will severely dent my plans to move my mob to Gringolandia... not good man, not good... maybe they should consider putting the tax on something evil like... Election campaign speeches!!! a buck-per-second tax may work like a charm!
Mel39 Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Bring Clinton back! He at least knows how to make a cigar, soft, moist, flavorsome, tasty and aromatic. You certainly don't want Hillary who would probably slap on an even bigger tax. Mel39
habanohal Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 I have written Senators and such. Automated responses , I would say. It is wrong, but thank god I dont smoke Non Cuban Cigars
smokum Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 » You certainly don't want Hillary who would probably slap on an » even bigger tax. » » » Mel39 Mel...did you mean "strap on an even bigger" ?? You were talking about Hillary so I thought you meant strap-on.:-D
Mel39 Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 » » You certainly don't want Hillary who would probably slap on an » » even bigger tax. » » » » » » Mel39 » » Mel...did you mean "strap on an even bigger" ?? You were talking about » Hillary so I thought you meant strap-on.:-D :lol2:
diab0lik Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Lucky i dont live in america... i'd probably move to another country if they ever passed something like that in Australia.
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