partagas P2

[Ken Gargett]

have been watching the general reviews and other threads where comments on these appear. fascinated that in the early days, most were very positive but there are now quite a few that might be termed less positive. Had one from one of those small boxes of ten, April 05. Stunned to see some suggesting these flavourless. This was a really attractive cigar, choc brown in colour. Cold, there was a note of the old footy boots, quite leathery, tho this was not unpleasant. Quite a rich opening with some spicy notes and a touch of blackberry. Did need a little attention early but settled well. Still very young and I am convinced that they will benefit considerably from extra time. Good construction and dense smoke. Slow burn. Moved into cocoa bean characters. Did go a little crooked after 2/3rds but no great problem. Rich and powerful smoke and one that you really know you’ve smoked. Do think it will be better in another 3-5 years. 91.

[Tampa1257]

Ken, I have to agree with you, everyone that I have smoked although young, has been very rich and depth of flavor spicy, leathery and bold. Frankly, they have surprised me for the complexity in such a young cigar and have been IMHO the Best New Cigar coming out of Cuba in many years! I personally believe that are a much better cigar than the Siglo VI which of course has the signature Brand name behind it. All things considered, both have been good and I just do not understand those that have not found them a purely delightful cigar to smoke. I understand everyone has a different palate, but a palate of a Billy Goat could enjoy the Partagás Serie P No.2.

[Ken Gargett]

tampa, glad to see i am not flying solo. i can't understand why so many seem so underwhelmed by this smoke.

that said, i am a big fan of the siglo vi. had another the other night and just loved it.

[shrink]

Being a Party Ho, I eagerly anticipated the P2, and bought up a few boxes from the ENE and FIM05 issues. I smoked several examples in the first few months, and found them to have "potential", but not in the league of a young PSD4. After six months of box age, they began to come around, but it wasn't until after a year that the complex spice, twang, and underlying sweetness began to reveal itself. Now, I prefer them to PSD4's of comparable age.

I imagine that many of those who don't "get it", are smoking from boxes less than a year old, or perhaps the later issues are simply not as good as the "first charge". All I know is that my '05 P2's are now running neck and neck with the '03 Serie du Connaisseur No. 1 as my favorite Partagas.

[strayvector]

You're not alone, Ken. I love these. Haven't had a bad one yet and hands down my favorite pyramid.

[waldo]

I bought two 10 ct boxes when they were released.

I smoked one out of the first box, gifted the other eight and never tried the last until it was a year old.

Wasn't impressed with the first out of that box, but the one year old was very nice. So, I pulled one out of the second box (same age) thinking it would be the same. It was muted.:-|

I'd have to say that they are hit and miss at this point. Maybe they will be better in a few years and maybe they will be dogs. Who knows?

[josie67]

» I bought two 10 ct boxes when they were released.

»

» I smoked one out of the first box, gifted the other eight and never tried

» the last until it was a year old.

»

» Wasn't impressed with the first out of that box, but the one year old

» was very nice. So, I pulled one out of the second box (same age) thinking

» it would be the same. It was muted.:-|

»

» I'd have to say that they are hit and miss at this point. Maybe they will

» be better in a few years and maybe they will be dogs. Who knows

Waldo, I couldn't agree with you more. With all the rave reviews, I have REALLY wanted to like these cigars, but even those with over a year of age have been muted and disappointing. I still have 5 or 6 left, and I may just put them away for a few years. So far, these have been one big bust for me. :-(

[greenpimp]

I've had some from 4 different boxes, 2 10-ct and 2 25-ct. All have been from very good to excellent. Need time, and are getting it, but the last thing I would say of them is that they lacked flavor. Intense Partagas profile in spades.

I find the P2s much better than recent PSD4s. Perhaps inconsistency is to blame for the negative reviews from some.

[Colt45]

» I'd have to say that they are hit and miss at this point. Maybe they will

» be better in a few years and maybe they will be dogs. Who knows?

Count me in with those who have found these to be a bit lackluster-

though not as bland as the PSD4s I've tried to date.

Perhaps it truly does take the palate of a billy goat to enjoy these.

[puffman]

What Tampa1257 said!!

[Taino]

I'm also a PP2 fan, and I would dare say it is by far one of the best vitolas being produced today, with great aging potential.

You can find a not so good box (like in any), but from how cigars are produced today I'll be really surprised if someone tells me a whole box was ruined, unless it has been stored badly or something like that.

[grateful1]

The problem/issue I have with the PSP2 is the wrapper coloration.

I have a box(4 left) from the early release. The wrapper is choc brown/near maduro...awsome...then I have a box from late last year (which I received a few months ago).

The new wrapper was much more - ordinary. If I put the two side by side it's ammazing the difference in coloration. What's even more amazing is that they smoke nearly identical!!! JUST AWSOME!!

Now - once again - I can't get enough of these smokes!

[olotti]

I'm really divided on these. I have 2 10ct boxes one from ENE and one from MAY and they are probably the most beautiful cigars I have, deep reddish brown almost maduro wrappers, smooth as silk, and a nice sheen. That being said out of a handful I've smoked only about 2 have been good. On one the burn was all over the place, the other one I tried a couple days ago drew upon prelight perfectly but when I applied the flame I got nothing it was an amazing phenomenon just air hardly any smoke and I was puffing like crazy, pitched it halfway through. Another one burned so bad I had to toss it and throwing these things out really pisses me off because they look so darn good but the other 2 I have sampled were really, really good, I only wish and hope the rest are as nice.