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Was gonna ask this in the question forum but since this thread raised my interest thought I’d ask it here. 

In your opinion what sorts of utilisation do you see in the NC market? More a question of “if I were to go and buy tobacco and make my own cigars how available is NC farms/tobacco/expertise”. Do you see the NC market is under-utilised? They have spare capacity to fit in lots more? Or they operating at the peak and it’s tough to get more quality production out of them?

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7 hours ago, El Presidente said:

The other major trend is larger CC retailers moving to establish NC private label. It makes some sense to spend time on marketing/establishing their own lines where they can control quantities (+ increased ROI) as opposed to solely marketing new NC brands.

As you do don't you?

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13 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Hold on to your hat. :rolleyes:

If there's anything I've learned in these years, it's this statement above. The Habanos world has been filled with uncertainty for so dang long now. I don't think we'll ever see another 'golden age'. At least not without some serious outside help (eg. infrastructure, supply chain mgmt etc).

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7 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said:

I'm starting to wonder if we're going to get a few years of stock "drought". Making cigars is not a priority when there is no fuel or food. 

Well said. I was wondering the same thing.

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I will admit I have done some panic buying of some of my favorites along with my regular rotation smokes. Uncertain times. 

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Prez...one factor not mentioned is the Chen Zhi ownership. My guess is per modo de operandi of how Cuba does things, is that they will cut him off and sell the 50% ownership to someone new. If they can't do that they will supply the countries that are "supporting" them with their electronic/economic problems off the grid. It's one of the few bargaining chips/cash cows that they have left. So you will see the supply shifting towards those countries. John

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1 hour ago, JohnnyO said:

Prez...one factor not mentioned is the Chen Zhi ownership. My guess is per modo de operandi of how Cuba does things, is that they will cut him off and sell the 50% ownership to someone new. If they can't do that they will supply the countries that are "supporting" them with their electronic/economic problems off the grid. It's one of the few bargaining chips/cash cows that they have left. So you will see the supply shifting towards those countries. John

That "contra" flow is huge Johnny.  

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