General Stuff in Life Poll: Arts - Old School vs AI

[MoeFOH]

I was watching this vid below by Rick Beato and started to ponder the following questions. Would love everyone's thoughts, etc. 

It's a three-pronged question, really: with the march of AI gathering pace all the time, what old school stuff do you see biting the dust/getting hit hard soon?... and do you think we should legislate against AI to slow or permanently restrict the impact long-term in these fields - especially in regards to monetisation? And, finally, do you think these advances will drive revivals of old school things AI can't touch (i.e. purely human endeavours - learning an instrument, going to live music (excluding Coldplay concerts with your paramour ) similar to the case of vinyl records where people rediscovered a genuine appreciation for the supposed inferior tech over its more convenient, supposedly superior successor? 🤔

Vote & Discuss below. 

Example below: 100% AI generated music being monetised on Spotify etc.

[tbelle7]

Film seems like the obvious choice. Over the last 10 years or so the shift of movies to full animation or CGI has been dramatic. It feels like the days of good writing / good movies are over. Might as well be AI.

[Nevrknow]

Have you never seen Terminator?   Being facetious but it kind of scares me. The " Claude/Claudius Story" anyone? Then there's the one (have not verified, just heard - I know, I know) about the one that they threatened to pull the power on in email. Said AI saw email (of course. Nothing is private anymore. How long before they crack vpns hmmmm?), immediately threatened to disclose a sordid affair said person was having to prevent power loss.

My grandfather would have laughed if I had told him one day I will carry a phone, computer, calculator, TV, et.al...in a small box I could fit in my pants pocket.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, does it mean it won't?

[Li Bai]

AI won't make art obsolete, it can generate average stuff in many fields but people will get bored eventually.

At one point it should even lead to a very welcome renewal in Hollywood like @BoliDan says 🤞, in the end art in all its forms isn't about money.

[BG318]

A brandy producer described how he was using AI to help catalogue his many thousand barrels of product, entering tasting notes from each barrel and identifying who made the notes. He then asked AI to come up with a 50 year anniversary blend, with certain characteristics. He didn't ultimately use the blend but said AI came close.

I wonder if the same thing could be done with tobacco...

[Puros Y Vino]

History has proven that when something is being touted a being beneficial to society are large, that it will give people more personal freedoms and choices, etc. It tends to result in the opposite and intended results of those behind "it". Whatever "it" may be. 

When it comes to music, AI will be able to generate content that makes money that publishers can keep 100%. No royalties with the artist, composer, etc. A friend sent me a link to an AI generated music video of Darth Vader rapping. It was quite good, the lyrics were funny, the beats, etc. Obviously the AI that produced this was trained on tons of actual source recordings from original(human) artists. Which on it's own has tons of copyright violation implications. Did I like it? Sure. Creeped me out a bit knowing it was AI. Would I put down actual money for it? No. Others might and you kind of see that already in some countries where people attend holographic concerts with made up "stars". So for some, this kind of stuff is appealing. To each their own.

For film. Fully AI generated movies will probably become the norm. Especially for niche properties and franchise. I can see Transformers movies being completely AI generated. Or Disney, Pixar properties, etc. Toy Story 10 - 100 coming soon!! It's not all bad though. One YouTube channel I enjoy, called the WhyFiles, (it covers Paranormal, UFO, conspiracy,etc) uses AI generated sequences to illustrate parts of a story that has no media. The youtuber is a solo act and uses AI to provide some visuals for the topic on hand. He probably can't afford to hire film crews and actors to recreate some historical scenes, so AI is a good tool for him and possibly others with similar needs. 

One cool thing I can see being used is being to repair or recreate footage from existing movies. For example, I'm a big fan of the Alien movies. In the first movie there were a bunch of deleted scenes as well as some scripted but never filmed due to cost overruns, scheduling etc. If you were to train an AI just using all the footage, audio, effects , picture of the sets, actors, etc from the first film, then tell the AI to render an unfilmed scene from the script, it should be able to pull it off. This kind of application can even help restore damaged footage of archival reels or even help recreate lost footage. Such as the King Kong "spider pit" scene or the lost "Hell" scenes from Event Horizon.

As for Literature. Many are able to discern human vs AI generated content. Even as AI gets better at it.

Art and Photography? I think we'll see a lot of royalty free photos being used in media. Some AI art can be intriguing. There are tons of silly pieces being made. Basically if there is a picture in your mind you can put it to words and AI will generate it. An artist can do that for you, but AI can do it almost instantly in any style you want. Want a funny picture of Fidel, cigar in mouth reading the Wall St Journal while on the toilet? Easy! Want it to be photo-realistic? Cubist? Impressionistic?, etc.

In the media, we will definitely get really good "fake news" to sway public opinion on topics. Even if a video or audio clip is revealed to be AI generated, it's probably too late to claw back the effect it's had no matter how many retractions are made; after all, "A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on".  Just this morning there's an AI clip making the rounds of Obama getting arrested in the oval office. Crass? False? Yes. Looks convincing? Yes. And its only going to get better. AI can also modify existing footage of historical events to rewrite narratives to support current views. 

AI will be the ultimate tool for every corporation out there that's in the content business for starters that don't want to pay their pesky employees. Film studios are chomping at the bit to be able to generate movies using the faces of Hollywood stars from the past and present without having to pay the living actors or the estates of the dead ones. Actors saw this coming years ago and are fighting tool and nail in the courts to not have their faces digitally available and used in films, commercials , etc without their consent and more importantly, without being paid. Want Marilyn Monroe to star in a movie with a 22 year old Brad Pitt? It can be done. Want a new Led Zeppelin album? AI will be able to convincingly generate one. 

And once AI is able to run by quantum computers? We're cooked. When you look at the companies and individuals moving AI forward, you kind of get the feeling it's not for the benefit of human kind. Just a very small percentage of it. For every benefit marketed to the masses, there will be multiple drawbacks. Maybe AI can help develop medicines to combat and eradicate cancer? Sure. But will everyone get access to the medications or procedures without having to take a second mortgage on their house? My bet is no. At it's core, AI is a tool. It is also the means to many possible ends, which IMO are not altruistic in nature.

 

/rant off.

[Chibearsv]

20 hours ago, BoliDan said:

But AI isn't going to produce Saving Private Ryan, Pulp Fiction, Godfather, Apocalypse Now, Schindler's List etc. It's not happening without visualization and critical thought. We can let AI make some crap films and let Hollywood tank more until they realize that the real talent in Hollywood that deserves to be paid are the ones using their pens.

Do you think the majority of this and the next generation is going to have the patience to actually sit and pay attention to a 150-180 minute movie where all the words and images matter to the the story? I don't. The way the world is going to go (in general) is to produce cheaply and distribute quickly, and kiss quality goodbye. It works, it sells, it's profitable. It's sad really. I'll keep appreciating the quality and enjoying the classics.

[Chibearsv]

6 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said:

At it's core , AI is a tool. It is also the means to many possible ends, which IMO are not altruistic in nature.

You're a 100% right. A hammer has obvious uses for building and home repairs, but it can also be used to assault or commit crime. It's the user that determines the use of a tool, not the tool itself. Some of whom have nearly limitless resources and bad intentions.