how low can the washington commodes go?

[Kaptain Karl]

4 hours ago, Corylax18 said:

Meanwhile Deshaun Watson is probably going to be suspended for a year because he loved his "Rub and Tugs" a bit too much. Meanwhile we have guys like  Jerry Jones, Jimmy Haslem and Robert Craft helping each other get away with it. Talk about a double standard. 

Dude rub and tugs are different than hitting up 67 independent female masseuses DM's and whipping your dick out and busting a nut without consent or provocation on 24 of them. Watson is a sexual predator and I hope he never plays in the league again. Being a sexual predator is different than being a narcissistic asshole and doing half the shit the owners have. 

[Corylax18]

1 hour ago, Kaptain Karl said:

Dude rub and tugs are different than hitting up 67 independent female masseuses DM's and whipping your dick out and busting a nut without consent or provocation on 24 of them. Watson is a sexual predator and I hope he never plays in the league again. Being a sexual predator is different than being a narcissistic asshole and doing half the shit the owners have. 

I think we're splitting hairs at this point. Im sure Robert craft only "busted a nut" on one "masseuse", right? Maybe only 6, or 10? How many is too many?

Watson was trying to get rub and tugs from Instagram hoes, Robert craft was getting them from pros. That's the only real difference I see, if I was an NFL owner, I wouldn't want either individual tied to/representing my business. 

It was just revealed that Dan Snyder paid a woman $1.6 million to keep her mouth shut about an incident on his Jet back in 2009. On top of the allegations we already knew about. So again, I ask. Is Once. On your Private Jet Ok? Once on Your Jet and Once at the team facility is OK?

Where do you draw the line between scum bags? The difference between these three guys is their position in life, not who they are as people. All three seem to be deeply flawed. But, two of them help each other(and others) stay rich and maintain the atmosphere that allows them to get away with it.  

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/06/21/on-eve-of-congressional-hearing-details-of-2009-allegation-against-daniel-snyder-emerge/

[Corylax18]

1 hour ago, Ken Gargett said:

as for watson, his actions have nothing to do with dan's and should be dealt with accordingly. 

I've really gotta disagree with you on this point. You're pretty much saying its OK for the CEO to get away with Fraud and get help from the Board of Directors to cover it up/get away with it. But if they catch the head accountant skimming they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and paraded in front of society as an example. 

I know its how things work, but that doesn't make it OK. The "Leaders" should be held to much higher standards, they should be the ones setting the example.  

[Ken Gargett]

12 minutes ago, Corylax18 said:

I've really gotta disagree with you on this point. You're pretty much saying its OK for the CEO to get away with Fraud and get help from the Board of Directors to cover it up/get away with it. But if they catch the head accountant skimming they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and paraded in front of society as an example. 

I know its how things work, but that doesn't make it OK. The "Leaders" should be held to much higher standards, they should be the ones setting the example.  

with respect, that is garbage. where did i say that? i'm saying the exact opposite. every individual should be dealt with according to the law. how you could possibly get that i think it okay for the ceo to get away with fraud and the board to cover it up from what i have said is truly baffling (perhaps i need to check what i said in case i made an error typing but everything i have intended to say is diametrically opposed to that). 

i do understand, and agree, with the 'leaders' being held to higher standards although when it actually comes to the law, it should be the same for all.

[El Presidente]

Wow. What a surprise.

Rich people can be grubs.

Sports stars can be grubs.

News at 10. 

......I have no idea why politicians (congress really?) would be involved.

Sponsors pull sponsorship and its game over.

 

 

[Corylax18]

2 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

his actions have nothing to do with dan's

They both did essentially the same thing. We can argue if the number of times they did it, or where they did matters. (it doesn't) But they've both done the same thing and are being treated/punished very differently for it. Maybe, I just misunderstood what you meant. We may mean the same thing. 

I agree both should be punished for what they did, irrelevant of what the other did, in a court of law. The problem is, Neither has been or will be tried in a court of law for any of these transgressions. They're both being "Tried" by the same people, the rest of the Owners. In that case, it very much matters how others have been previously punished by the same people for the same things. Both should be shown the door, quickly, irrevocably. But the fact that the owners do this stuff, help each other cover it up, then keep doing, it is a HUGE problem. A much bigger problem than any of the initial transgressions.

"Suspending" Dan Snyder for the offseason, while he continues to rake in his millions and participate in the operation of the team is not the same as suspending a player for a year.(after he already had a de facto year long suspension last year) Owners own teams for Decades, most players get 5 or 6 years, if they're lucky. 

I'm saying fire the CEO, fire the board, fire everyone who sat by and enabled criminals to commit crimes for years.(and got rich doing it) Use their illegally gotten wages to help the XFL or the USFL get a start. Hell, the Arena League, I don't care. Leagues that have been crushed under the NFL's thumb time and again through illegal TV and advertising deals, leagues that haven't been allowed to compete because these criminals pay their politician buddies to make sure their "legal" monopoly isn't at risk.

Dan may be one of the worst, but he's just the one in the limelight now. These scumbags have been paying roger goodell tens of millions a year to be their punching bag/trigger man, but people are finally starting to realize who the puppet masters are. $64 million each of the last two years:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/roger-goodells-astronomical-pay-revealed-nfl-commissioner-topped-125-million-over-past-two-years-combined/#:~:text=Overall%2C Goodell earned %2463%2C900%2C050 per,earnings coming from bonus money.

[Corylax18]

18 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

I have no idea why politicians (congress really?) would be involved.

What else could be more important right now. 🙄

Congress is involved because they're currently co conspirators. They're trying to figure out the right time to cut bait................

[Ken Gargett]

9 minutes ago, Corylax18 said:

They both did essentially the same thing. We can argue if the number of times they did it, or where they did matters. (it doesn't) But they've both done the same thing and are being treated/punished very differently for it. Maybe, I just misunderstood what you meant. We may mean the same thing. 

I agree both should be punished for what they did, irrelevant of what the other did, in a court of law. The problem is, Neither has been or will be tried in a court of law for any of these transgressions. They're both being "Tried" by the same people, the rest of the Owners. In that case, it very much matters how others have been previously punished by the same people for the same things. Both should be shown the door, quickly, irrevocably. But the fact that the owners do this stuff, help each other cover it up, then keep doing, it is a HUGE problem. A much bigger problem than any of the initial transgressions.

"Suspending" Dan Snyder for the offseason, while he continues to rake in his millions and participate in the operation of the team is not the same as suspending a player for a year.(after he already had a de facto year long suspension last year) Owners own teams for Decades, most players get 5 or 6 years, if they're lucky. 

I'm saying fire the CEO, fire the board, fire everyone who sat by and enabled criminals to commit crimes for years.(and got rich doing it) Use their illegally gotten wages to help the XFL or the USFL get a start. Hell, the Arena League, I don't care. Leagues that have been crushed under the NFL's thumb time and again through illegal TV and advertising deals, leagues that haven't been allowed to compete because these criminals pay their politician buddies to make sure their "legal" monopoly isn't at risk.

Dan may be one of the worst, but he's just the one in the limelight now. These scumbags have been paying roger goodell tens of millions a year to be their punching bag/trigger man, but people are finally starting to realize who the puppet masters are. $64 million each of the last two years:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/roger-goodells-astronomical-pay-revealed-nfl-commissioner-topped-125-million-over-past-two-years-combined/#:~:text=Overall%2C Goodell earned %2463%2C900%2C050 per,earnings coming from bonus money.

i suspect we are actually a lot closer than we might think. agree re it not mattering about where etc. dan has a few other issues (the second set of books and not paying money he should). it does look like neither will be 'tried' other than by the nfl and owners. another issue. 

suspending dan or even his $10 mill fine was a farce and the proverbial flogging with a soggy lettuce. the irony of all the woke crap is that it might actually get action from some of these people who should act and we might eventually get the right result in relation to both scumbags. but i wouldn't hold my breath. 

[La_Tigre]

13 hours ago, SCgarman said:

So essentially we/or the NFL should just leave billionaire perverts alone to their own devices and bury our heads in the sand? Gotcha. BTW if it was your daughter that he allegedly groped, you would be OK with that?

That is a HUGE leap of reasoning. Shall we assume then your daughter was groped by a billionaire? Not reasonably.

The comment was in response to the never ending ‘mob rule’ tactics of human nature. Hypocrisy and they all need to go if this is the set of rules and accountability.