Bijan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Looking at original 2001 release of Cuaba Diademas it looks like 300 boxes of 5 were produced so 1,500 in total. Is there anything lower production? https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/cuaba#diademas-seleccion-limitada-italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bijan said: Looking at original 2001 release of Cuaba Diademas it looks like 300 boxes of 5 were produced so 1,500 in total. Is there anything lower production? https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/cuaba#diademas-seleccion-limitada-italy Been looking to pick up another 5 pack of those. Down to my last coffin ? Anyone looking to do a trade or sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said: Been looking to pick up another 5 pack of those. Down to my last coffin ? Anyone looking to do a trade or sale? I'm getting two coffins. I'd be willing to trade one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Which ones are you talking about getting, the Diadema 2001 releases or the regular production versions from 2003-2013? Not the same things. As far as the rarest productions, the 21 individual 1999 Siglo XXI humidors containing 10 or 20 cigars of each model would result in no more than 420 sticks of a particular model made. I would guess that's the lowest production number cigar. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Which ones are you talking about getting, the Diadema 2001 releases or the regular production versions from 2003-2013? Not the same things. I'll be getting two of the 2001 release. 2 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: As far as the rarest productions, the 21 individual 1999 Siglo XXI humidors containing 10 or 20 cigars of each model would result in no more than 420 sticks of a particular model made. I would guess that's the lowest production number cigar. Haven't look through them all but they look like standard production generally though some discontinued. Are they a special limited run and not just from the regular production runs or aged examples? If any of the 10 counts were specially made for the release I guess the lowest number would be 210 then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Bijan said: I'll be getting two of the 2001 release. Very nice. Smoking them would be tough for me! 1 hour ago, Bijan said: Haven't look through them all but they look like standard production generally though some discontinued. Are they a special limited run and not just from the regular production runs or aged examples? If any of the 10 counts were specially made for the release I guess the lowest number would be 210 then. Many of them are new one-offs or resurrected models. They would qualify. And yes, lowest would be 210 up to max 420. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Which ones are you talking about getting, the Diadema 2001 releases or the regular production versions from 2003-2013? Not the same things. As far as the rarest productions, the 21 individual 1999 Siglo XXI humidors containing 10 or 20 cigars of each model would result in no more than 420 sticks of a particular model made. I would guess that's the lowest production number cigar. It turns out that the Cohiba Coronas Especiales and Cohiba Piramides were 5 cigars each, so 105 sticks. I believe if the Piramides had the standard band they would have been unique for that year. https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/multi-brand#siglo-xxi-millennium-humidor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, Bijan said: It turns out that the Cohiba Coronas Especiales and Cohiba Piramides were 5 cigars each, so 105 sticks. I believe if the Piramides had the standard band they would have been unique for that year. https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/multi-brand#siglo-xxi-millennium-humidor Yes, those snuck in as 5s, so 105 sticks. The CCE isn't too special as it's one of the regular production sticks but those 105 1999 Cohiba Piramides would be pretty darn rare. I wonder how many of the XXI humis have even ever been broken up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, NSXCIGAR said: Yes, those snuck in as 5s, so 105 sticks. The CCE isn't too special as it's one of the regular production sticks but those 105 1999 Cohiba Piramides would be pretty darn rare. I wonder how many of the XXI humis have even ever been broken up. It all depends on if they have a standard band or match the jar piramides release from 1999: https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/cohiba#reserva-del-milenio (10,000 jars were produced) Yes wonder where they are all at now. Apparently one failed to sell at auction about 10 years ago. I think the starting bid was supposed to be about $224,000 US. https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/giant-siglo-humidor-fails-to-sell-at-london-auction-16053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mprach024 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said: Yes, those snuck in as 5s, so 105 sticks. That’s like having a bottle of ‘47 Cheval Blanc, it’s worth too much to actually drink. Purely a collector/investment purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz1209 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Perhaps the Cohiba 60 Annerversario humidor? Only 50 made. Not sure how many each in humidor. Only cuban i know with 60 rg too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Benz1209 said: Perhaps the Cohiba 60 Annerversario humidor? Only 50 made. Not sure how many each in humidor. Only cuban i know with 60 rg too. Only 50 produced, but 50 in each humidor so total of 2,500. https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand/cohiba#50-aniversario-humidor That's the reason I thought the Cuaba might be the lowest one (300 boxes of 5 cigars), because most releases are 25 cigar boxes or 50 cigar humidors, so even if they make a handful it's still more over all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Which ones are you talking about getting, the Diadema 2001 releases or the regular production versions from 2003-2013? Not the same things. I am happy with any of the Cuaba Diadema's. I guess I'd prefer the newer ones hope for better construction. I am big fan of the Punch Diadema too, but just don't seem them around a long time. Smoked my last one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Very nice. Smoking them would be tough for me! Yes, a lot of people feel that way about Cuaba But yes smoking a cigar individually numbered X/1500 will probably feel a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Bijan said: It all depends on if they have a standard band or match the jar piramides release from 1999: They are considered different cigars and they would have definitely had different bands. Only the Millennium Jar cigars have those bands and all three Millennium cigars have the same band. So it seems the 1999 Cohiba Piramides is the rarest cigar produced by HSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, NSXCIGAR said: They are considered different cigars and they would have definitely had different bands. Only the Millennium Jar cigars have those bands and all three Millennium cigars have the same band. So it seems the 1999 Cohiba Piramides is the rarest cigar produced by HSA. You'd have to see the owner take it out of the giant humidor or have good proof that they own one to trust it though. Someone could take the 2001 limited edition and remove the second band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Bijan said: Yes wonder where they are all at now. Here's #21 on @nino's blog http://flyingcigar.de/flying-cigars/200712-singapore-jimmys-treasures-part-two/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nino Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Here's #21 on @nino's blog http://flyingcigar.de/flying-cigars/200712-singapore-jimmys-treasures-part-two/ Nice digging @NSXCIGAR !! I found another one back in 2008 in a Hong Kong garage ... but I've forgotten which number it is. Last I visited ( December 2019 ) it was still there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBNInc Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, nino said: Nice digging @NSXCIGAR !! I found another one back in 2008 in a Hong Kong garage ... but I've forgotten which number it is. Last I visited ( December 2019 ) it was still there. Is it a humidified garage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 hours ago, DBNInc said: Is it a humidified garage? I think I read the humidor is electronically temperature and humidity regulated. But yeah the way they have it wrapped, it's probably not plugged in. I wonder if they're storing the cigars elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Bijan said: I think I read the humidor is electronically temperature and humidity regulated. But yeah the way they have it wrapped, it's probably not plugged in. I wonder if they're storing the cigars elsewhere. Correct on both - electrically regulated and cigars properly stored inside the house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I would not be relying on the 1999 Cuban electronic humidification system in those humidors in any way. I consider those more for show than for function. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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