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I've never had one anywhere near as poor as you describe, but I've always been distinctly underwhelmed by this cigar. When you have a better one, you can definitely appreciate some of the "Sir Winston-esque" characteristics that mssrs. Johnson and Garcia really do manage to pull out of it, but they're working in Nicaraguan tobacco, so the whole is not quite the sum of those parts the way it is with Cuban. Nothing against Nicaraguan leaf- this just doesn't play to its strengths. You know... Arnold Schwarzenegger is probably not the first choice to play Hamlet.

Yeah, I've never been a big fan of the Reserva SW, but the Reserva J21, on the other hand... that's an all-timer for me (one of the 3 NCs in my top 10).

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Shame it didn't live up to expectations. Tatuaje was my go to brand before I got into CC. For me they certainly have never been bland. Usually the opposite coming in at full spice. However, since I discovered FOH I haven't bought another Tat since and am never excited to smoke my remaining stash. 

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That is one of my favorite Tatuaje though it is one of the lightest Tatuaje it usually has good flavor and complexity. Unfortunately, it sounds like yours was overpacked. Construction issues are quite rare for them.

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  On 9/22/2020 at 12:58 PM, Doctorossi said:

I've never had one anywhere near as poor as you describe, but I've always been distinctly underwhelmed by this cigar. When you have a better one, you can definitely appreciate some of the "Sir Winston-esque" characteristics that mssrs. Johnson and Garcia really do manage to pull out of it, but they're working in Nicaraguan tobacco, so the whole is not quite the sum of those parts the way it is with Cuban. Nothing against Nicaraguan leaf- this just doesn't play to its strengths. You know... Arnold Schwarzenegger is probably not the first choice to play Hamlet.

Yeah, I've never been a big fan of the Reserva SW, but the Reserva J21, on the other hand... that's an all-timer for me (one of the 3 NCs in my top 10).

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I'll be adding one or two more to future orders to make sure this one was just a dud. I'll probably grab some Reserva J21s too.

  On 9/22/2020 at 2:46 PM, djrey said:

Shame it didn't live up to expectations. Tatuaje was my go to brand before I got into CC. For me they certainly have never been bland. Usually the opposite coming in at full spice. However, since I discovered FOH I haven't bought another Tat since and am never excited to smoke my remaining stash. 

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Spice is what I was expecting and pretty much got nothing. I jokingly thought that I had COVID, but I had no issues tasting my breakfast, lunch or dinner that day.

  On 9/22/2020 at 11:28 PM, havanaclub said:

Surprised as that is generally a really good cigar.

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I was hoping for better, but I'll definitely have to try another one or two in the future.

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Just avoid the ones that say “broadleaf” under the reserva lettering. It was the first thing I did when I zoomed into your picture wondering if you had the crappy BL version.
You have to watch for the J21 reserva. The regular one uses a high priming habano wrapper and will only say reserva.
The one that says broadleaf under reserva is not even close to as good as the original.


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Certainly don’t give up on the brand. Though I prefer CC to Tats they are still a great cigar and Pete knows his stuff. I’d recommend getting some brown label and laying a few down for a few years. They come out quite nice. Noellas is a great size. I actually have a 2015 box still sealed I’m about to crack open ? I’ll report back! 

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  On 9/23/2020 at 1:30 AM, havanaclub said:

Just avoid the ones that say “broadleaf” under the reserva lettering. It was the first thing I did when I zoomed into your picture wondering if you had the crappy BL version.
You have to watch for the J21 reserva. The regular one uses a high priming habano wrapper and will only say reserva.
The one that says broadleaf under reserva is not even close to as good as the original.


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The Reserva line should all be Connecticut (Ecuador?) broadleaf.  

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  On 9/23/2020 at 2:38 AM, BuzzArd said:
The Reserva line should all be Connecticut (Ecuador?) broadleaf.  

No sir. The exception is the SW reserva and the J21 reserva.
But the remainder of the reserva line is BL. Pete Johnson later changed the bands to help distinguish the BL ones by putting broadleaf under the reserva.
But still the j21 and SW will still have the standard reserva band.


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  On 9/23/2020 at 2:41 AM, havanaclub said:


No sir. The exception is the SW reserva and the J21 reserva.
But the remainder of the reserva line is BL. Pete Johnson later changed the bands to help distinguish the BL ones by putting broadleaf under the reserva.
But still the j21 and SW will still have the standard reserva band.


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Gotcha.  I was gonna txt him tomorrow to ask.  LOL

I have some of a Reserva box left from 2012.  Don’t recall the size, but not Churchill’s. They’ve been really good lately. 

Too bad the above was a disappointment. 
 

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  On 9/23/2020 at 2:54 AM, BuzzArd said:
Gotcha.  I was gonna txt him tomorrow to ask.  LOL
I have some of a Reserva box left from 2012.  Don’t recall the size, but not Churchill’s. They’ve been really good lately. 
Too bad the above was a disappointment. 
 
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Absolutely, Pete will tell you.

Those 12-13 BL are outstanding. His best BL batch.
That looks like a Regios reserva or the 7th (CG size). Excellent cigars. And would be BL


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  On 9/23/2020 at 2:56 AM, havanaclub said:


Absolutely, Pete will tell you.

Those 12-13 BL are outstanding. His best BL batch.
That looks like a Regios reserva or the 7th (CG size). Excellent cigars. And would be BL emoji106.png


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It’s a Regios. Was during an event here in 2015. He was surprised I’d scrounged and come up with a 2012 box.
 

 “Damn!   Where the hell was that hiding??”

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  On 9/23/2020 at 3:36 PM, ElLoboLoco said:

Problem with the draw you say?

1. Get a Perfect Draw gizmo. Pays for itself quickly.

2. Maybe it was a cuban cigar is disguise. Lol

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I have a PerfecDraw and I used it, as I noted above, without any improvement in the draw of this particular cigar. It has helped others though.

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I didn’t catch that, so sorry. Must have been a really bad cigar if the Perfect Draw can’t save the day.  

I have smoked a fair number of Tatuaje cigars over the years and construction has never been an issue. Except an uneven burn here and there. 

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  On 9/23/2020 at 3:05 AM, BuzzArd said:

 “Damn!   Where the hell was that hiding??”

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You reminded me that I had an old Petite Tatuaje cab lying around here somewhere.

I found it--2006--maybe a third of the smokes remaining.    The aroma when I opened it was amazing--how did I forget about these?

(senior moment is the right answer  ?  )

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