El Presidente Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I wonder if they really know the true extent Illegal tobacco sellers use slang to beat Facebook ban Gabriel Pogrund February 18 2018, 12:01am, The Sunday Times Illegal tobacco sales cost the British taxpayer £2.5bn a year Share Save Sellers of unlicensed tobacco on Facebook’s Marketplace app are sidestepping the social media giant’s safeguards by misspelling brand names, using foreign languages and communicating in slang. A Sunday Times investigation found hundreds of results for illicit tobacco on Facebook using search terms deliberately designed to circumvent the rules. Searching for key words in foreign languages such as Polish, Romanian and Russian was also found to deliver dozens of results. Most included foreign cigarettes illegally smuggled into the UK for resale. The illegal sale of tobacco costs the British taxpayer £2.5bn a year in unpaid duties. Campaign groups say that selling cigarettes at “pocket money” prices leads to child addiction. Deborah Arnott, chief executive of Ash, the tobacco awareness charity, said: “This is another example of Facebook saying one thing while doing another — looking the other way while making money out of illegal tobacco sales.” Facebook: blames a ‘technical issue’ Facebook had defended the presence of illegal items on Marketplace as a “technical issue” when it was launched more than a year ago. It said that it banned ecigarettes, smoking paraphernalia and all tobacco products. The findings of today’s investigation suggest that the sale of prohibited items is far more widespread than previously thought. Some sellers use Facebook as a digital shopfront but sell cheap cigarettes directly to customers, while others conduct illicit transactions through the site. In one instance a seller advertised 200 Dunhill Blue King Size cigarettes for £50. If bought legally the same quantity would cost £114.50. In another instance a vendor advertised a 1kg bucket of rolling tobacco for £125. According to current HM Revenue & Customs rates on tobacco, tax on such a product would be £221.18. In a statement Facebook said: “Our teams work around the clock to review content that is reported to us, and we also have systems in place that proactively analyse text, images, and other factors to identify potential violations when a listing is posted to Marketplace.” It added: “We can confirm that the four products reported to us by the Sunday Times have been removed for violating our Tobacco Commerce Policy.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illegal tobacco sellers use slang to beat Facebook ban Gabriel Pogrund February 18 2018, 12:01am, The Sunday Times Illegal tobacco sales cost the British taxpayer £2.5bn a year Share Save Sellers of unlicensed tobacco on Facebook’s Marketplace app are sidestepping the social media giant’s safeguards by misspelling brand names, using foreign languages and communicating in slang. A Sunday Times investigation found hundreds of results for illicit tobacco on Facebook using search terms deliberately designed to circumvent the rules. Searching for key words in foreign languages such as Polish, Romanian and Russian was also found to deliver dozens of results. Most included foreign cigarettes illegally smuggled into the UK for resale. The illegal sale of tobacco costs the British taxpayer £2.5bn a year in unpaid duties. Campaign groups say that selling cigarettes at “pocket money” prices leads to child addiction. Deborah Arnott, chief executive of Ash, the tobacco awareness charity, said: “This is another example of Facebook saying one thing while doing another — looking the other way while making money out of illegal tobacco sales.” Facebook: blames a ‘technical issue’ Facebook had defended the presence of illegal items on Marketplace as a “technical issue” when it was launched more than a year ago. It said that it banned ecigarettes, smoking paraphernalia and all tobacco products. The findings of today’s investigation suggest that the sale of prohibited items is far more widespread than previously thought. Some sellers use Facebook as a digital shopfront but sell cheap cigarettes directly to customers, while others conduct illicit transactions through the site. In one instance a seller advertised 200 Dunhill Blue King Size cigarettes for £50. If bought legally the same quantity would cost £114.50. In another instance a vendor advertised a 1kg bucket of rolling tobacco for £125. According to current HM Revenue & Customs rates on tobacco, tax on such a product would be £221.18. In a statement Facebook said: “Our teams work around the clock to review content that is reported to us, and we also have systems in place that proactively analyse text, images, and other factors to identify potential violations when a listing is posted to Marketplace.” It added: “We can confirm that the four products reported to us by the Sunday Times have been removed for violating our Tobacco Commerce Policy.”
gweilgi Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 So using a foreign language is now evidence of criminal activity? I know that Britain (and the US) can be a bit myopic when it comes to recognising and appreciating that most of the world does not speak English -- shock, horror, say it ain't so!! -- but that is plainly ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It' s only illegal bc of heavy handed Gov't control. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsgucia Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Perhaps British government should review their skyrocket cigar prices and see who is really responsible for the situation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbandz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Prohibition did not work. Prohibitive taxes breed crime. Criminals make the money. Therefore, there are criminals at BOTH ends of tobacco taxes............. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrouchoMarx Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The tighter they close their grip - the more that slips through their fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 "For sale: Kievhibas, Monte Chernobyls, Vladimir and Julietas" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tstew75 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Nothing new, most American trading groups do the same thing (if they're smart). Big brother is always watching & wants his absurd tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fokker4me Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 These groups pop up, last for a while, and disappear just as fast only to be replaced by another group the next hour, and more creative each time. It's the same in the Whiskey and Bourbon trading groups. They are like cockroaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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