BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Verona. 22x16x67 - they say it holds 3,000 sticks - but I'm mostly interested in aging boxes. The 4 cedar trays on the top 2 shelves are removable for box storage. I'm not in love with the A frame roof...LOL...it's actually dead space that can be used for storage but this would be going into the basement so no one but me will be seeing it. For the price I'm paying for the cabinet delivered - it would cost me more to buy cedar plywood to try and build one myself. I'll have to just add the active humidification and some fans to be in working order...
dangolf18 Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Have you checked into how much shipping would be? That vendor charges an arm and a leg for shipping.
oliverdst Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 If it is that cheap and it doeant sound a scam buy it. Just be sure there are no holes on the wood.
kinglingcheng Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 it looks good, depends the price they offer you . they get problem with top and bottom humidifier . m8 , be honest, with the big size humidor , not a smart choice to build yourself.
watches_whiskies_cigars Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 The seal is not great. In the winter months, it'll leak humidity. You could buy all-weather seal from Home Depot to put around the edges where the door closes. I'd suggest you get fans with your active humidification system because the RH is likely to vary from top to bottom. If your basement is cooled during the summer months and heated during the winter, you'll be fine, otherwise the temperature swings.
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 52 minutes ago, dangolf18 said: Have you checked into how much shipping would be? That vendor charges an arm and a leg for shipping. I'm getting FREE shipping from where it's coming. Brand new. 1
dangolf18 Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 Wow holy crap that's great. I'd jump on that deal. My only concern would be that the seal is good, but that's something you can really know before buying.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 28 minutes ago, watches_whiskies_cigars said: The seal is not great. In the winter months, it'll leak humidity. You could buy all-weather seal from Home Depot to put around the edges where the door closes. I'd suggest you get fans with your active humidification system because the RH is likely to vary from top to bottom. If your basement is cooled during the summer months and heated during the winter, you'll be fine, otherwise the temperature swings. Thank you I'll look into beefing up the seal and I don't open close too much at all. My basement is no more than 70-72 in summer and stays 67-69 in the winter. I'm looking at this system that Mattb turned me onto - for active humidification. They use it in the Avallo: Accumonitor 20-40. 1 controller, 4 fans and 4 cannisters. Not cheap but he says it's awesome.
watches_whiskies_cigars Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 1 minute ago, BarryNY said: They use it in the Avallo: Accumonitor 20-40. 1 controller, 4 fans and 4 cannisters. Not cheap but he says it's awesome. I have an Avallo cabinet with the Accumonitor. It does work well. Just set the RH target at 59-60
cybermadhatter Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 I have had that exact edition as one of my humidors. For 6 years now. The screws on the hinges have come loose. Also the bottom does not hold humidity that well. I tighten the screws, and even taped them. I used weather stripping as well. Mine was shipped free, too, and was under $600, back then. I only have 2000 cigars in this one as the bottom is dead space :-(
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 5 hours ago, cybermadhatter said: I only have 2000 cigars in this one as the bottom is dead space :-( "ONLY".................LOL. I wish 2,000. If I get 6 decent years out of it, I'll be happy.
godpheonix Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 9 hours ago, BarryNY said: Verona. 22x16x67 - they say it holds 3,000 sticks - but I'm mostly interested in aging boxes. The 4 cedar trays on the top 2 shelves are removable for box storage. I'm not in love with the A frame roof...LOL...it's actually dead space that can be used for storage but this would be going into the basement so no one but me will be seeing it. For the price I'm paying for the cabinet delivered - it would cost me more to buy cedar plywood to try and build one myself. I'll have to just add the active humidification and some fans to be in working order... i got the same exact one about 7 years ago. i paid 500$ for it. still have it, no issues at all. its my main humi. i keep it in the basement. I use electronic humi devices and i have no issues with humidity, it varies a few degrees but that's it. i have about 1800 cigars in there, mostly in their original boxes as well. its full now though. i imagine you could fit close to what they advertise with smaller ring gage cigar or\and no boxes. honestly i find its a good buy especially for the price. it smells divine every time i open it. its well built and looks good in my opinion. 2
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 9 minutes ago, godpheonix said: i got the same exact one about 7 years ago. i paid 500$ for it. still have it, no issues at all. its my main humi. i keep it in the basement. I use electronic humi devices and i have no issues with humidity, it varies a few degrees but that's it. i have about 1800 cigars in there, mostly in their original boxes as well. its full now though. i imagine you could fit close to what they advertise with smaller ring gage cigar or\and no boxes. honestly i find its a good buy especially for the price. it smells divine every time i open it. its well built and looks good in my opinion. Now we're talking - an honest review from a fellow FOH - thanks much for the comments. I'm looking at about $535 delivered to NY....just 2 boxes of stogies.... Bottom line....at the end of the day (as long as you're not looking for a living room showcase piece) if the structure is decently crafted and the seal is good (even if I did have to add some weatherstrip) it all comes down to what type of humidification/controls system you put in there. And I think 1800 cigars would be just fine for me...as my wife thinks that my Diamond Crown St James that holds just 160 works well enough LOL! 1
gweilgi Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 9 hours ago, watches_whiskies_cigars said: The seal is not great. In the winter months, it'll leak humidity. You could buy all-weather seal from Home Depot to put around the edges where the door closes. I'd suggest you get fans with your active humidification system because the RH is likely to vary from top to bottom. If your basement is cooled during the summer months and heated during the winter, you'll be fine, otherwise the temperature swings. I own two of these, and I am inclined to agree. The door does need a bit of DIY to establish a good seal, and active humidification with extra fans is a must. When I first got mine, I registered as much as 20% difference in RH from bottom to top .... not good.
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, gweilgi said: I own two of these, and I am inclined to agree. The door does need a bit of DIY to establish a good seal, and active humidification with extra fans is a must. When I first got mine, I registered as much as 20% difference in RH from bottom to top .... not good. I could see that RH% spread happening - those 8 drawers in the middle probably restrict a fair amount of circulation flow. The Accumulator humidification system comes with 4 fans - hopefully that works, if not - I have a few small 4" fans that I can add on. Also - not seeing that many pictures - could any of the shelves or those singles drawers use some extra routing out for greater opening and enhanced circulation?
irratebass Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 I have the "tower of power" I got it 3-4 yrs ago, I love it & it's my main humi.I had 3 lbs of beads in it, then moved to a Hydra (which was a hand me down, and won't go below 72%) Next week I am buying a Xikar Magna 2.0. I have spoken to a few people who have my humi and the Magna, and they said it's great with no issues & completely adjustable.I got mine for $650 shipped, I say go for it, we'll worth the $$Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
godpheonix Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 1 hour ago, gweilgi said: I own two of these, and I am inclined to agree. The door does need a bit of DIY to establish a good seal, and active humidification with extra fans is a must. When I first got mine, I registered as much as 20% difference in RH from bottom to top .... not good. odd never got those issues. from top to bottom, it does not vary more than 4 degrees, and that's rarely the case. Of course i have a an oasis xlplus at the bottom and one at the upper middle of the humi. and honestly its pretty stable...i don't need to refill those for months at a time. seal as never been an issue or even an afterthought. 1
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, irratebass said: I have the "tower of power" I got it 3-4 yrs ago, I love it & it's my main humi. I had 3 lbs of beads in it, then moved to a Hydra (which was a hand me down, and won't go below 72%) Next week I am buying a Xikar Magna 2.0. I have spoken to a few people who have my humi and the Magna, and they said it's great with no issues & completely adjustable. I got mine for $650 shipped, I say go for it, we'll worth the $$ Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk same manufacturer........
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 take a look into the Avallo Accumonitor....
irratebass Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 take a look into the Avallo Accumonitor....I have, believe me...I've done my research, The Avallos are expensive, the Xikar is half that. I'm still torn honestly, but leaning more towards the XikarSent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 1 hour ago, godpheonix said: odd never got those issues. from top to bottom, it does not vary more than 4 degrees, and that's rarely the case. Of course i have a an oasis xlplus at the bottom and one at the upper middle of the humi. and honestly its pretty stable...i don't need to refill those for months at a time. seal as never been an issue or even an afterthought. Nice to know. I just bought the humidor and I'm going to order the Avallo Accumonitor later. The Accu comes with 2 water canisters, each one independent with 2 additional small fans... 10 minutes ago, irratebass said: I have, believe me...I've done my research, The Avallos are expensive, the Xikar is half that. I'm still torn honestly, but leaning more towards the Xikar Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk godphoenix is running 2 oasis XL plus with good results...the Accu in effect is the equivalent of 2 humidifiers with the 2 independent canisters....
godpheonix Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 one is no good i tried that. and i had a bigger one. you need 2 humidifiers to keep humidity at comparable levels because you need to place one at the bottom and one middle way up.
BarryNY Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, godpheonix said: one is no good i tried that. and i had a bigger one. you need 2 humidifiers to keep humidity at comparable levels because you need to place one at the bottom and one middle way up. makes sense!
Bohn007 Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 13 hours ago, BarryNY said: Verona. 22x16x67 - they say it holds 3,000 sticks - but I'm mostly interested in aging boxes. The 4 cedar trays on the top 2 shelves are removable for box storage. I'm not in love with the A frame roof...LOL...it's actually dead space that can be used for storage but this would be going into the basement so no one but me will be seeing it. For the price I'm paying for the cabinet delivered - it would cost me more to buy cedar plywood to try and build one myself. I'll have to just add the active humidification and some fans to be in working order... You should just order two now and get it over with 2
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