msm1771 Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 Hey allA friend just picked these up in Cuba. I will mention the price after the fact. They look iffy to me but what do I know.Opinions?Sent from my 86" White Testarossa
seattledude Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 Code check. The product is original from Habanos S.A. HSA: 10.7129.18.0780 Descripcion: PARTAGAS SERIE D No.5 D-C-C/P-3-A/T-15 2
CigarSeeker Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 1 minute ago, seattledude said: Code check. The product is original from Habanos S.A. HSA: 10.7129.18.0780 Descripcion: PARTAGAS SERIE D No.5 D-C-C/P-3-A/T-15 Yup was just looking at that..though the bands don't look so off.
msm1771 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Posted July 21, 2016 Code check. The product is original from Habanos S.A. HSA: 10.7129.18.0780 Descripcion: PARTAGAS SERIE D No.5 D-C-C/P-3-A/T-15 Lol wow. Friend got them out of the factory from a friend for 80$ a box. Supposively stolenSent from my 86" White Testarossa
seattledude Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 Have him unwrap one carefully and examine it. Probably floor sweepings and short filler. Or maybe not who knows.
msm1771 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Posted July 21, 2016 Have him unwrap one carefully and examine it. Probably floor sweepings and short filler. Or maybe not who knows.He said he smoked one and its not bad. He doesnt give a **** they are for clients who wont know the diff anywaySent from my 86" White Testarossa
seattledude Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 Well. If there are pure garbage, hair, floor sweepings inside that cigar..... I would not give those out to anyone. 2
CigarSeeker Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, msm1771 said: He said he smoked one and its not bad. He doesnt give a **** they are for clients who wont know the diff anyway Sent from my 86" White Testarossa Just because someone doesn't know the difference it doesn't mean you let them smoke sh**... That's quite low actually in my honest opinion.. 3
stogieluver Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 Everything about them looks legit to me, except the Partagas Serie D part. Seriously, they do look legit. Could the code check be incorrect?
msm1771 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Posted July 22, 2016 He will take them apart later and send pics. If they are legit im buying a box off of him. Sent from my 86" White Testarossa
Cubatabaco Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 I haven't seen SVF in a while. I have a box of 05 RA Belicosos with that factory. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
archosaur Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 This looks like one of those deals where the packaging is legitimate, cigars are not. As noted, SVF was a code from '05, not '15 as far as I know, and that stamp does not look right (looks like a 0 that is partly covered to look more like a 1?) Also, the font on the MINSAP sticker looks unlike anything I have seen, not as bold as usual for tobacco warnings...of course, I don't have any boxes procured in Cuba, so I could be off there. The warranty seal looks a little light in color to my eye. Does it have the microprinted serial numbers that match the barcode? It should. My guess is that he has an $80 box of Cuban cigars, not authentic Cohiba Robustos. Would love to see the dissection!
CigarSeeker Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, Bster said: I'm sure I have SVF factory code on a box somewhere... on an 05 or early 06 box. Will have to check around... I have SXF/SEP/05 on a cab of 50 of EPI2.. I haven't seen any of those codes in any recent productions let alone Coro with new bands.
joeypots Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 So often the reply when people confirm their cigars are counterfeits. "But they are still good cigars, no?" No, they are most likely dog rockets. The people who made and sold them are crooks. Kind of like the Rolex I bought on 5th Avenue. Great watch, no?
archosaur Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 8 hours ago, Bster said: Must admit I haven't had a look yet, as soon as seeing SVF I knew it was 05, definitely have that code in late 05's or early 06. RyJ Exhibicion #4's or VR Clasico (from a 5x5 cardboard pack...i think). Looks like the print of the '0' in the '05' is almost there. No worries, and I don't think you need to bother checking. I think it is generally agreed that SVF was the Partagas factory code at that time.
msm1771 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Posted July 22, 2016 So often the reply when people confirm their cigars are counterfeits. "But they are still good cigars, no?" No, they are most likely dog rockets. The people who made and sold them are crooks. Kind of like the Rolex I bought on 5th Avenue. Great watch, no?5th avenue is one of the best places in NYC to be authentic watches lol. You mean Canal Street I am sure. Sent from my 86" White Testarossa
oliverdst Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 The code does not mean they are fake. I have real boxes that have wrong codes in HSA site. Not 100% trustfull. Warranty seal and box stamp are fake IMO. 1
msm1771 Posted July 23, 2016 Author Posted July 23, 2016 The code does not mean they are fake. I have real boxes that have wrong codes in HSA site. Not 100% trustfull. Warranty seal and box stamp are fake IMO.I will ask him again to dissect them. He smoked a couple and said they taste great. At 80$ a box if they are somehow real then wow....Sent from my 86" White Testarossa
msm1771 Posted July 23, 2016 Author Posted July 23, 2016 Okay guys here are the dissection pics. What do you think? Real or fake? 80$ box of coros. Friend said they tasted really damn good.Sent from my 86" White Testarossa
Fugu Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 Nothing wrong from the dissection. I do spot wrapper, binder and what seems to be even a somehow blended filler. No scraps, no garbage. Still very likely non-legit. For an older box had been refurbed with these (as others have said, looks like a manipulated 05 box code), and probably some stolen/reproduced guarantee seals have been used. But, well, we know they haven't left the factory the "normal" way - if at all... 22 hours ago, msm1771 said: Friend said they tasted really damn good. Guess, that's all what counts to him, so why bother... If he was experienced with the CORO, he would know. 1
westg Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 On 22/07/2016 at 6:54 AM, msm1771 said: Lol wow. Friend got them out of the factory from a friend for 80$ a box. Supposively stolen Sent from my 86" White Testarossa will more than likely leave a bad taste in your mouth..
westg Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 On 22/07/2016 at 6:58 AM, msm1771 said: He said he smoked one and its not bad. He doesnt give a **** they are for clients who wont know the diff anyway Sent from my 86" White Testarossa wow
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