PointFivePast Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 So recently the GF was reading over my shoulder and saw something about a Romeo y Julieta. She said "I want to try one!" which surprised me as she rarely smokes cigars with me and I have never had her actually show interest in a particular one. She's had maybe a handful with me and hasn't developed any particular focus in her palate as far as likes and dislikes. I myself don't have much experience with RyJ as I am relatively new to CC and focused on other lines a the moment. I would, however, like to get some for her to try and for myself as well. What I am looking for is a RyJ that has good classic flavor for the marca and probably in a smaller package as I doubt that she is interested in smoking an entire Churchill. I'm leaning towards Petite or Short Churcills but I'm open to suggestions, especially if less expensive than those. Anyone got an idea for the right RyJ to start my lady's love affair with cigars?
NSXCIGAR Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I'd recommend the Cedros de Luxe #3 (Mareva) or the Coronitas en Cedro (Petit Cetros) which is a bit smaller (40 x 129.) Both should be a bit more approachable than some of the other models. I do like the Sports Largos and the Belvederes as well but the recent stock hasn't been smoking as well as I'd like. The Petit Julietas are very small and can be good but I encountered a few draw problems with them earlier this year. The Petit/Wide/Short Chills and the PCs might be a little intense for a beginner. The Ex4 has been stellar recently and is probably the best model in the lineup right now but it is a larger format and again, might be a bit intense for a beginner. I do think that the RyJ profile lends itself well to a beginning Cuban smoker. On the sweeter side, fruity/ripe and balanced. 1
potpest Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 The Petit corona is excellent, a good size and true to the marca. When you get a good one they are almost as good as the churchill. The cedros line would be good for a beginner smoker, light and creamy but I don't think they are true to the marca. Have more in common with Hoyo than RYJ.
Hohenthal Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 The Petit corona is excellent, a good size and true to the marca.... agreed, but it can be a bit strong - one box I had nearly blew my socks off, way stronger than any Bolivar. A good alternative might be the Romeo Tubos #2. Medium strength, med-full aroma and , like the PC a true R&J And not to forget the Exhibition 4 ! Cheers, Alex
Scrubber Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I've only tried a couple vitolas and haven't been a fan. I don't think the RyJ profiles suits me. I would give a Churchill a try one day though but I'll try other marcas first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MostlyHarmless Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 my vote also goes to the tubos no 2. My gf loved those in the beginning. It has a good size, it's not too tiny, but you don't smoke forever, the flavours are delightful and its not too strong.
CaptainQuintero Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 The sport largos is a great little cigar, rich RyJ aromatic tobacco and no nicotine to speak of. Smasher than a petit corona so perfect for a first smoke too imo
Fuzz Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 What about the RyJ Julieta? The cigar HSA specifcally made for women. 1
Sophistic Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I dont get the concept of cheap/boring cigars for beginners. If i want to introduce someone to the joy of cigar smoking im certainly not handing him/her a r&j romeo or sport largos. If it has to be a r&j, give the person the best short churchill you can find. 2
Smallclub Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 What about the RyJ Julieta? The cigar HSA specifcally made for women. It's crap. So bad that in Spain tobacconists stock them with the dry cigarillos, not in the humidor.
PapaDisco Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I dont get the concept of cheap/boring cigars for beginners. If i want to introduce someone to the joy of cigar smoking im certainly not handing him/her a r&j romeo or sport largos. If it has to be a r&j, give the person the best short churchill you can find. I agree. If perhaps you're trying to relive the marketing acumen of a Virginia Slims campaign then perhaps go for a PC. The girls I know that like a cigar like it as much for the crossover thrill of smoking a man's stogie . . . (one of you guys have got to hit that straight line . . . ). They want to hang with the boys and more power to them! Me, I'd hand her a classic, the Julieta No. 2 (aka Churchill) and make sure that it was at least 5 years old. Introduce her to Zino's admonition about only smoking a cigar half way, explain how the occasional purge will take the bite out (if necessary) and let her enjoy! Or go with the short Churchill probably wiser anyway, but definitely at least 5 years old!
ksblazer Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 If you are not looking to spend much and get a good idea of what the Romeo profile is the RyJ Mille Fleur is one of my favorite cheapy's. Then as theAlejandro mentioned the recent RyJ Exhibition No.4 are what I would recommend first to someone wanting to try a good RyJ.
Smallclub Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I dont get the concept of cheap/boring cigars for beginners. If i want to introduce someone to the joy of cigar smoking im certainly not handing him/her a r&j romeo or sport largos. If it has to be a r&j, give the person the best short churchill you can find. The Sport Largos and Romeo series are not "cheap" cigars. Gram for gram they're priced like the rest of the line. To me it's the Short Churchill that tastes cheap. 2
TCContender Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 The Sport Largos and Romeo series are not "cheap" cigars. Gram for gram they're priced like the rest of the line. To me it's the Short Churchill that tastes cheap. Agreed, Short Churchill is surely my least favorite RJ. Yes, I do have a box of Sport Largos...
drunkbuckeye Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 agreed, but it can be a bit strong - one box I had nearly blew my socks off, way stronger than any Bolivar. A good alternative might be the Romeo Tubos #2. Medium strength, med-full aroma and , like the PC a true R&J And not to forget the Exhibition 4 ! Cheers, Alex The Romeo Tubos #2 was my first one too. It was what interested me into finding more CC. The exhibition 4 is one I've been waiting on to try for a while now...
Troels Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 The new cedro de luxe would by my choice. I've only tried one, but it was fairly mild but complex and satisfying
mk05 Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 What I am looking for is a RyJ that has good classic flavor for the marca and probably in a smaller package as I doubt that she is interested in smoking an entire Churchill. If you want the real thing, the real experience, you have to pay. That's why they're expensive. That's the truth. I know a lot of people here roll their eyes like this guy below, but that's just the way it is, and he'll probably figure it around in 5 years when he luckily stumbles upon a real cigar, and it'll be like he found Jesus. Another one of your arrogant, elitist answers which is no surprise to probably anyone here. Sir Winstons are far from "dead"!! If you wanted to drive a supercar and someone told you to try a Mazda because you get the same feel for less, wouldn't you roll your eyes? What's the difference? People lose sight of what is important and what the goal is, it makes me question what is going on sometimes. Look, everyone has taste - but the goal is to continue to develop it. RyJ isn't the way it used to be, that's just a fact. If you smoke enough Romeo's you'd know. My point is that if you want to understand RyJ, what it used to be, and how great cigars should taste, you have to go and get a '80s RyJ Churchill in a tubo from a reputable tobacconist. So find one, sit back and enjoy it together. I guarantee you that it will change your mind about cigars as well, since you couldn't answer the question yourself. Good luck!
Lotusguy Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 It's crap. So bad that in Spain tobacconists stock them with the dry cigarillos, not in the humidor. So true. One of the worst releases of the last 10 years.
MrGTO Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 EX #4 is perfect, cherries all day long! Just buy the best examples you can get your hands on.
RWhiz Posted October 24, 2015 Posted October 24, 2015 Cedros de luxe, or the Mille fluers. I enjoy both, these will give her a shot at a really decent cigar without a kick in the face of nicotine.
PointFivePast Posted October 24, 2015 Author Posted October 24, 2015 Thanks for the recommendations everyone; definitely some stuff to mull over and ponder here. It's always tricky with her because she hasn't quite got to the point of noticing changes in cigars over the course of thirds (or halves for shorter ones) so the length required to see them seems a bit boring. I'll keep trying though... one days we'll find that Eureka! cigar for her. Who knows, maybe the RyJ will do the trick.
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