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...is that when its kind of stingy, I guess spicy on your tongue and lower lip?

Sorry this this is a bit of a retarded question!

I just had an Uppman Half Corona (great size!) and that is how I would have described it.

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You may prefer HDM or ERDM perhaps Cohiba over HUP

you will likely dislike Partagas, Trinidad and Montecristo

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you may also like the mildness of RYJ

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...is that when its kind of stingy, I guess spicy on your tongue and lower lip?

Sorry this this is a bit of a retarded question!

I just had an Uppman Half Corona (great size!) and that is how I would have described it.

Spice can be many things. You can first break it down into Sweet Spices and Savoury Spices.

Sweet Spices are the Cinnamon, Licorice, cloves etal.

Savoury Spices are the peppers in the main. White, black, green, red.

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Spice can be many things. You can first break it down into Sweet Spices and Savoury Spices.

Sweet Spices are the Cinnamon, Licorice, cloves etal.

Savoury Spices are the peppers in the main. White, black, green, red.

Thanks, that's useful. I would have best described it as white pepper.

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"...is that when its kind of stingy, I guess spicy on your tongue and lower lip?"

possibly you are over herfing and the nicotine builds up and gets bitter............common with smaller sticks.

when you taste spice,it does not sting.......

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Had my first Fuente Opus X yesterday, the spice on that thing burnt/stung my lips and tongue just on the cold draw.

Thank god nothing has that level of ridiculousness in the Cuban catalogue, utterly pointless.

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Spice can be many things. You can first break it down into Sweet Spices and Savoury Spices.

Sweet Spices are the Cinnamon, Licorice, cloves etal.

Savoury Spices are the peppers in the main. White, black, green, red.

Excellent point, El Pres! There are distinctions in spice flavours in cigars ranging from sweet to savoury.

Thanks, that's useful. I would have best described it as white pepper.

The last H. Upmann Half Corona I had also had a dominant 'white pepper' flavour. The last Partagas Serie D No.6 also had a nice savoury spice flavour, the difference was that the Earth and Oak flavours balanced out the pepper in the PD6 more than the HUHC.

So, don't rule out cigars because of spice because even a little bit, coupled with other flavours, can be really pleasant.

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Had my first Fuente Opus X yesterday, the spice on that thing burnt/stung my lips and tongue just on the cold draw.

Thank god nothing has that level of ridiculousness in the Cuban catalogue, utterly pointless.

How old was the Opus? From my experience with them, a couple years mellows out the spice just enough and they turn into beautiful sticks.

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Had my first Fuente Opus X yesterday, the spice on that thing burnt/stung my lips and tongue just on the cold draw.

Thank god nothing has that level of ridiculousness in the Cuban catalogue, utterly pointless.

I recall my first Opus X, probably close to 15 years ago, having the same quality of being almost "hot" on the lips pre-light. That, and the cost, made it my first and last.

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Ah, the age old conundrum - does spice dictate flavor (as in kitchen spices) or painful heat (like from an over-humidified smoke)?

I like flavorful cigars, but dont like it when they burn.

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How old was the Opus? From my experience with them, a couple years mellows out the spice just enough and they turn into beautiful sticks.

Three years, it was the petit lancero one if that changes anything!

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Never understood the pepper everyones claims is so overpowering in an Opus X?!? Had a 2013 FFOX last night and I thourougly enjoyed it. I didn't think it was overly strong, peppery, just high quality texture tobaccos producing very good flavors/aromas throughout. Only have 12 left from this box although most shops are getting in their alotted shipments right now in the States. The only negative I could attribute to it is that it is pretty one note throughout and for me that is an almond paste/Dr Pepper flavor/aroma, maybe a slight maraschino flavor along with that, but all three of these flavors are very similar and could be classified as one flavor note in and of itself.

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I've seen numerous cigar reviews all over where I've felt fairly certain the reviewer is mistaking the harshness of an overheated/overhumidified cigar for pepper. I tend to be a slow smoker, and I don't find pepper in nearly as many cigars as some reviewers do. I don't have a very well refined palate or anything, but I see a lot of reviews for so-called "pepper bombs," and to me the pepper is subtle or absent altogether in many of those. Of course there are plenty of NCs where pepper is a legitimate flavor, and I actually enjoy that when it's balanced correctly.

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I think this might be me actually, consciously slowing down I find it less. And for me I always notice it more towards the end of a cigar which I'd assume is more likely to get over heated.

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