what do you want habanos sa to do?

[Sophistic]

i want them to produce more cigars in the 36-40 ring gage range, regular laguito #1 and #2 from all marcas.

[Smallclub]

Hire me.

[earthson]

i want them to produce more cigars in the 36-40 ring gage range, regular laguito #1 and #2 from all marcas.

Get ready for a flood of the same sentiment! Since the big RG are apparently selling well (or, at least, conserving wrapper leaf) I agree that each marca needs a skinny. I personally lament never having had a chance to buy a box of Dip #6 or 7, the RA 898, or a HU Dalia/Lonsdale/Cervantes.

[Colt45]

As a start, franchise to privateers

[PapaDisco]

First I'd like them to restrict marcas to being made in specific factories. Then I'd like them to offer a roller specific box program (imagine the pricing! ), and finally I'd like them to assemble and roll sticks consistently from specific estates. Always changing the source of the blend from year to year is akin to the wine industry only offering "Red Table Wine."

[Lant63]

Hire me.

I would love to work for them as well, and be able to work on some new releases.

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[spirit]

Interesting question, one that certainly seems to crop up often enough...

I don't mind the 50-52RG smokes, it's when they are bigger and this move to keep on fattening them doesn't work for me.

It's in the mid-range that I think HSA need to keep thinking about releasing new sticks - more Corona's is what I fancy.

[yannis]

bring back the old criollo leaf....

and all the rest everybody said, thinner ring gage, ah and diplomatic cohibas for everyone:)

[mgravito]

Then I'd like them to offer a roller specific box program (imagine the pricing! ), and finally I'd like them to assemble and roll sticks consistently from specific estates.

That's what I was thinking. Create a wider and organized release of roller customs and farm rolls.

[El Presidente]

1. Pay the all aspects of the industry (farmers to rollers and everyone in between) a living wage.
2. Focus on quality.
3. Anything that sells less than 300,000 sticks a year, bring out every 3 years (on a rolling basis). No deletions. Bring back the classics on this basis.
4. 1 x Heritage release every year. PL Magnum would be a good one to start

5. JV with privateers on struggling brands such as Diplomatico, LGC, Sancho Panza. Let them take the risk and do the marketing, flesh out the lineup.

[RickHendeson]

Resist dropping the embargo and flooding the market with crap

[Skyfall]

Bring back the full Diplomatico line!

[Vortigan]

Bolivar Coronas Extra!

[LeafLover]

Skinnies rolled well across Partagas, Dip, Rass, and Rafa.

[cooper669]

Looooong skinnies!

[Smallclub]

Skinnies don't sell; the chances to have them back are below zero.

[cooper669]

Skinnies don't sell; the chances to have them back are below zero.

The question is: what do you habanos sa to do? This is what I want them to do!

[Firebender]

Make all petit coronas available in SLBs

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[Smallclub]

…and I want them to give me free cigars for the rest of my life, and give my name to a new line, and pay me exorbitant consulting fees…

[aushy]

Get ready for a flood of the same sentiment! Since the big RG are apparently selling well (or, at least, conserving wrapper leaf) I agree that each marca needs a skinny. I personally lament never having had a chance to buy a box of Dip #6 or 7, the RA 898, or a HU Dalia/Lonsdale/Cervantes.

How do big RG cigars conserve wrapper leaf? Don't you need more mass of wrapper for a larger RG than a smaller RG?

Edit: Is it because smaller RG are less expensive plus result in more of the wrapper being discarded. So that means less $ per wrapper used?

[LordAnubis]

I would like Habanos to stop being little sissies and if they want ot go fro big ring gauge cigars, to do a proper job of it. They will be called Cohiba Customos. You measure the maximum diameter your mouth can physicially open to, and they produce a box of cigars of that diameter.

Aushy, what I imagine is that there is a ratio of wrapper to the rest of tobacco needed for a cigar. They would have plenty of filler and binder maybe and only certain amounts of quality wrapper. If you make the cigar fatter, you use more of the filling tobacco, and only use 1 wrapper. Example. If you had to make 10 lanceros, you need 10 wrapper leafs, and maybe 100g of the filler tobacco (not based off any real numbers, just for explanation). If you were to make 10 Double Coronas Supremos with a 80 ring gauge and 180mmm length, you'd need big wrapper leafs, but you'd still only need 10 wrapper leafs, and you would need maybe 300grams of filler tobacco to make the cigars. So you consume more of your tobacco product instead of it going to waste or being sold for making cigarettes.

[BonVivant]

Most impossible, but some wishfull thinking at this point and not until weather permitting - not going to work until???

1. Re-open RyJ Factory and roll, the real brands that belong to it

2. Roll the REs at their Mother Factories - will sell itself

3. Roll the regular production of brands belonging to their Mother Factories and stick to it

4. Get rid of the flukes, like EL and LCDH

5. Discontinue the RE program for Asia/Pacifico - does not work

Just being polite

[Vortigan]

Skinnies don't sell; the chances to have them back are below zero.

This is a very salient point,isn't it?? Just being the devil's advocate for a moment - I see this mourning for long and skinnies a lot but nobody (broadly) wanted them when they were here,right?

Sometimes I wonder how much psychology is in play with cigars and cigar smokers.What I mean is that the "fashion" has been for the short and fat in recent times,getting shorter and certainly fatter every year it seems.So where did that "fashion" come from,who determined it and why? I'd venture that it has less to do with connoisseurship than it has with catering for "peacocking" and being seen.

So I suppose what I'm wondering is how much the desire for long and skinny is because those vitolas and their flavour profiles are genuinely preferred and now missed and how much is a resistant push back against what some may see as a crude,bloated and much too self-indulgent vogue that's infiltrated their passion.

These are just idle musings,nothing to be taken too seriously

[LordAnubis]

I think the problem with long and skinnies is that we are talking about two different market groups. One market group is the aficionado or cigar enthusiasts like us. If you did a survey on FoH you'd find everyone saying skinnies are better. However there is a second market group of the Nigerian Businessman who has a Rolls Royce and wants to showboat his wealth. He doesn't want a thin cigar in his mouth, he doesn't care about the flavours, all he wants is to show off how big and how expensive his cigar that he is smoking is. Also keep in mind the random guy who walks into a humidor at the airport duty free will also be looking for the fancy band, big fat cigar to show off with.

What you have to then remember is Habanos is a business. Business needs money. All us chumps don't have money. Nigerian businessman has muchos dinero and will buy 100 boxes of Cohiba Supremos given the chance.

But back to the topic, What would I really like Habanos to do? I would like better consistency and quality control I think.

[CaptainQuintero]

I'd genuinely be satisfied if there was simply a petit corona or corona in each marca. They can have as many massive special release cigars as they can shake a stick at as long as that happened.

It doesn't seem much to ask, they would all sell as well as san cristobal or Cuaba and keep everyone happy.