Mold or plume help

[Large215]

[Large215]

iPhone cam sucks it's

From a tin I got 3 mons ago and kept in my desktop with 69rh packs I don't know if it mold

[PapaDisco]

mold. fuzzy, threadlike edges. brush off and smoke!

[El Presidente]

Harmless Mold. Enjoy.

[subport]

Mold but nothing scary there. Wipe off and forget about it. You can even put it back the foot is clear. (At least you didn't post pictures from that part.)

[Large215]

I think it's the best pic I'm gonna take

[Large215]

Mold but nothing scary there. Wipe off and forget about it. You can even put it back the foot is clear. (At least you didn't post pictures from that part.)

I seen some in the foot ... Not really worried about smoking them more worried. What am I doing wrong ... Thanks for help

[Large215]

Harmless Mold. Enjoy.

thanks for the help

[Large215]

mold. fuzzy, threadlike edges. brush off and smoke!

thanks for the help

[Large215]

a few White dots in the foot man this sucks

[PapaDisco]

Changes in temperature affect humidity in a closed environment like that. Perhaps they were at a good rH going into the tin, but then it got chilled and rH in the tin goes up with no where for the moisture to go that wants out. Colder air will of course dry out, but with nowhere to go, a lower temp just forces the inside of your tin towards dew point.

[Large215]

Changes in temperature affect humidity in a closed environment like that. Perhaps they were at a good rH going into the tin, but then it got chilled and rH in the tin goes up with no where for the moisture to go that wants out. Colder air will of course dry out, but with nowhere to go, a lower temp just forces the inside of your tin towards dew point.

wow that makes a lot of sense thank you ... I just went through all the cigars in the 300ct humidor to make sure and didn't find anything on any other cigars .... Thanks again for the help

[Pedro2486]

Definitely pixie "dust" bro. Or possibly fairy jizz. Hard to tell without using my wand

I'd just brush it off and smoke away mate. Then again I've got no idea haha

[Large215]

Definitely pixie "dust" bro. Or possibly fairy jizz. Hard to tell without using my wand

I'd just brush it off and smoke away mate. Then again I've got no idea haha

lol lol thanks

[Mckucci]

Mold, but it's not the type you have to worry about... Just wipe it off and enjoy!

[PapaDisco]

Mold, but it's not the type you have to worry about... Just wipe it off and enjoy!

Yeah, we almost never get a fatality from that type . . .

[ha1fway]

It's always mold, except on the rare occasion with a Fuente when it's excess glue that gets scuffed up a bit. This isn't glue, sorry.

With mold on the foot you don't have any clear indication of how deep the mold has spread inside the cigar, it's typically not **** you want inside you. Some (most?) will say mold on the foot = toss, others will take the chance. At the end of the day it's a relatively expensive cigar but it's still just a couple bucks. I don't know that I'd smoke it.

[leftimatic]

Definitely pixie "dust" bro. Or possibly fairy jizz. Hard to tell without using my wand

I'd just brush it off and smoke away mate. Then again I've got no idea haha

I dunno could be pixie jizz from fairy orgies. My uncles best buddies sister had it happen. Some say it made the cigar taste of chocolate muffins and salty cream cheese with slight notes of apple and cinnamon. Its true.

[PapaDisco]

I dunno could be pixie jizz from fairy orgies. My uncles best buddies sister had it happen. Some say it made the cigar taste of chocolate muffins and salty cream cheese with slight notes of apple and cinnamon. Its true.

OK, now y'all are just gettin' nasty!

[PigFish]

PD makes good points that you should note about changing conditions and cigars.

IMHO 69rH is high for cigars and the percentage moisture content will vary depending on the temperature. If you are going to store this high rH (and I don't smoke NC cigars, so taste is subjective) consider a slightly higher temperature storage over that of cooler storage.

Problems like this arise out of temperature differentials (typically). Say the cigar is warmed by the sun, or a warm spot in the room. Since the cigar is in a tin, we will call that a solid surface material and water tight. The heat drives the water out of the cigar via the evaporation process. The warming space reduces the rH of the space and the tobacco loses its bond on the water as the energy of the water goes up. It frees itself naturally from the tobacco and simply mixes with the air…. All is right with the world, nature at work! This is until the sun goes down and so does the temp of the tin case, and the water (vapor) inside. The rH climbs due to the drop in temperature and with nowhere to go, some of it precipitates onto the wrapper and the inside of the tin. In any case, you now have liquid water on your cigar… This is bad!

Once liquid water is present you have a medium for capillary action of water and food for the mold (spores already present on the tobacco) and you are off to the races.

Two things… Get these out of the tins but you may want to keep them separate from other stock because you now know that they have spores. You should smoke them!

And the last thing, try to keep the temp of your storage more consistent. If you cannot keep it consistent, at least provide a means for the water to be taken up by hygroscopic material, cigars, beads, boxes and not give it a form of solid surface material that will have a thermal mass that will encourage condensation.

Cheers! -Piggy

[jdo2110]

PD makes good points that you should note about changing conditions and cigars.

IMHO 69rH is high for cigars and the percentage moisture content will vary depending on the temperature. If you are going to store this high rH (and I don't smoke NC cigars, so taste is subjective) consider a slightly higher temperature storage over that of cooler storage.

Problems like this arise out of temperature differentials (typically). Say the cigar is warmed by the sun, or a warm spot in the room. Since the cigar is in a tin, we will call that a solid surface material and water tight. The heat drives the water out of the cigar via the evaporation process. The warming space reduces the rH of the space and the tobacco loses its bond on the water as the energy of the water goes up. It frees itself naturally from the tobacco and simply mixes with the air…. All is right with the world, nature at work! This is until the sun goes down and so does the temp of the tin case, and the water (vapor) inside. The rH climbs due to the drop in temperature and with nowhere to go, some of it precipitates onto the wrapper and the inside of the tin. In any case, you now have liquid water on your cigar… This is bad!

Once liquid water is present you have a medium for capillary action of water and food for the mold (spores already present on the tobacco) and you are off to the races.

Two things… Get these out of the tins but you may want to keep them separate from other stock because you now know that they have spores. You should smoke them!

And the last thing, try to keep the temp of your storage more consistent. If you cannot keep it consistent, at least provide a means for the water to be taken up by hygroscopic material, cigars, beads, boxes and not give it a form of solid surface material that will have a thermal mass that will encourage condensation.

Cheers! -Piggy

Piggy, do you have an email address? I'd love to ask a couple of more questions...

PM me if you're cool with that. Thank you

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[PigFish]

Piggy, do you have an email address? I'd love to ask a couple of more questions...

PM me if you're cool with that. Thank you

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in my profile. Use the gmail address!

You can call me Ray. Cheers!

[jdo2110]

in my profile. Use the gmail address!

You can call me Ray. Cheers!

Thanks, Ray. It isn't showing on taptalk, so I'll get on my laptop and check there. I appreciate it brother

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[Ginseng]

PD makes good points that you should note about changing conditions and cigars.

IMHO 69rH is high for cigars and the percentage moisture content will vary depending on the temperature. If you are going to store this high rH (and I don't smoke NC cigars, so taste is subjective) consider a slightly higher temperature storage over that of cooler storage.

Problems like this arise out of temperature differentials (typically). Say the cigar is warmed by the sun, or a warm spot in the room. Since the cigar is in a tin, we will call that a solid surface material and water tight. The heat drives the water out of the cigar via the evaporation process. The warming space reduces the rH of the space and the tobacco loses its bond on the water as the energy of the water goes up. It frees itself naturally from the tobacco and simply mixes with the air…. All is right with the world, nature at work! This is until the sun goes down and so does the temp of the tin case, and the water (vapor) inside. The rH climbs due to the drop in temperature and with nowhere to go, some of it precipitates onto the wrapper and the inside of the tin. In any case, you now have liquid water on your cigar… This is bad!

Once liquid water is present you have a medium for capillary action of water and food for the mold (spores already present on the tobacco) and you are off to the races.

Two things… Get these out of the tins but you may want to keep them separate from other stock because you now know that they have spores. You should smoke them!

And the last thing, try to keep the temp of your storage more consistent. If you cannot keep it consistent, at least provide a means for the water to be taken up by hygroscopic material, cigars, beads, boxes and not give it a form of solid surface material that will have a thermal mass that will encourage condensation.

Cheers! -Piggy

Piggy,

Informative post as always. You are my reference for humidification discussions. I did want to respond to a few points though.

"Precipitation" is technically accurate in this usage, but wouldn't condensation be a more contextually apt term?

The other point is that this is a dynamic process, respiration, transpiration, condensation, diffusion, etc. And as such, the boundary conditions are so critical in the outcome. For example, if a warm tube is slowly cooled as the sun moves away and the local environment cools down then the dynamics are different than if the tube or tin were moved directly to a cold surface, i.e., laid on a cool interior granite countertop. The locus for condensation might not manifest in the first but be right on the surface/tube/cigar interfaces in the latter.

What do you think, sir?

Wilkey

[Smallclub]

With mold on the foot you don't have any clear indication of how deep the mold has spread inside the cigar, it's typically not **** you want inside you. Some (most?) will say mold on the foot = toss,

I wonder if these people have an idea of the numbers of spores we breath or let enter our bodies, via food or breath, everyday?