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Nice work!

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Beautiful work there. Great design, layout and colours.

But...

Not to be a sore spot, but just basing off of the pictures you posted, I'm very worried for the longevity of that unit. I don't like the look of what appears to be a material defect. Looks like you used standard Melamine board / particle board. I do see that you appear to have lined it with a thin cedar veneer. What's the cedar thickness? Correct cedar (spanish?) How was the cedar affixed into the interior of that cabinet, or is it "floating"?

My main issue, and why I'm asking these questions, is that it appears you've got no hydroscopic barrier there. There's no plastic, acrylic, hardened fibreglass sheeting there as the separator between the thin cedar interior and the particle board outer construction. That cedar may be too thin if it's floating (therefore leading to excessive warp over time), and/or if it's mounted with screws or nails or whatnot, you've punctured the melamine, making it even more prone to RH/moisture travelling into it. That material is NOT good with moisture excesses, and will swell, warp, separate, and de-laminate over time (obviously, this is all depending on quality, outside RH compared to interior RH, whether it's "marine rated" melamine / plywood, etc.)

Sorry, don't want to be a damper. But something to clarify, and perhaps something that can be corrected??

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Very nice job mate! Thanks for sharing the project.

There are a lot of guys on the site that are always looking for data. If you have the time adding some commentary to the pics and posting them in the humidor tutorial section may help other members, especially if you had problems to overcome and found "means and methods" to overcome them.

I love to see others building their own humidors. Thanks again for sharing the project. -Piggy

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Beautiful work there. Great design, layout and colours.

But...

Not to be a sore spot, but just basing off of the pictures you posted, I'm very worried for the longevity of that unit. I don't like the look of what appears to be a material defect. Looks like you used standard Melamine board / particle board. I do see that you appear to have lined it with a thin cedar veneer. What's the cedar thickness? Correct cedar (spanish?) How was the cedar affixed into the interior of that cabinet, or is it "floating"?

My main issue, and why I'm asking these questions, is that it appears you've got no hydroscopic barrier there. There's no plastic, acrylic, hardened fibreglass sheeting there as the separator between the thin cedar interior and the particle board outer construction. That cedar may be too thin if it's floating (therefore leading to excessive warp over time), and/or if it's mounted with screws or nails or whatnot, you've punctured the melamine, making it even more prone to RH/moisture travelling into it. That material is NOT good with moisture excesses, and will swell, warp, separate, and de-laminate over time (obviously, this is all depending on quality, outside RH compared to interior RH, whether it's "marine rated" melamine / plywood, etc.)

Sorry, don't want to be a damper. But something to clarify, and perhaps something that can be corrected??

The particle board was used to build the otter shell. It was then sealed with 4 coats of shellac and then sprayed with another 2 coats of sealer (over kill, but you could flood this humidor up with water, and nothing would soak through) As long as its done properly, and sealed correctly there is nothing wrong with using particle board. it is also lined on the inside with 1/4 Spanish cedar, that was glued into place. It's been over a year now, and no warping, movement or humidity issues. it hold humidity better than any humidor I've ever seen. It has a hydra LG in the bottom that I only have to refill once every 2 months, with 3 fans circulating the humidity... It has a hygrometer on each shelf, and they are all consistent at 65%. Even when opening the door, it only takes 15 minutes to come back up.

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The particle board was used to build the otter shell. It was then sealed with 4 coats of shellac and then sprayed with another 2 coats of sealer (over kill, but you could flood this humidor up with water, and nothing would soak through) As long as its done properly, and sealed correctly there is nothing wrong with using particle board. it is also lined on the inside with 1/4 Spanish cedar, that was glued into place. It's been over a year now, and no warping, movement or humidity issues. it hold humidity better than any humidor I've ever seen. It has a hydra LG in the bottom that I only have to refill once every 2 months, with 3 fans circulating the humidity... It has a hygrometer on each shelf, and they are all consistent at 65%. Even when opening the door, it only takes 15 minutes to come back up.

Awesome. Sounds wicked then.

My main thing was the adherance for that cedar (glad to hear it's 1/4" at least, and not 1/8" or 3/16" for that size of planking), and then the joints in the corners with the particle board. Coating with the shellac and then sealing sounds perfect (provided there's no VOC residual-aroma issues). The only thing that would remain a bit of concern would be outside-influence swell - which I don't think could really be overcome for eternity no matter the material. That particle board could still get a bit of swell going, if the outside/inside RH are too much in variance (especially if you live in a very humid and/or damp area). If that occurs, a bit of swell / stress cracking could start on those inside corner joints, leading to the particle board swelling more and more, and a vicious cycle erupting.

However, the pictures of your construction, and the added info on the materials and coating / sealing, lead me to think its a complete home run. Phenomenal balance of cost-savings and performance. I do very much like the design and layout, and think you've done a really fabulous job!

Like Ray said, a tutorial thread might help a lot of others looking at a project with this. This is awesome.

You'll have to do an update in 2-/5-/10-/25-years, and gladly and gleefully dismiss all concerns I initially had then!!!!! biggrin.png

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Cabinets are nice. They have their own issues and nuances but once you dial them in they are great.

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