How many different current productions cigars are there?


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Wondering if anyone knows how many different current production cigars there are? In my quest to smoke at least one of every current production cuban, I'd like to know how many there are.

Maybe if alex (atgroom) sees this, he can query the cubancigarwebsite database and tell us. ;)

Otherwise I'll count them up and post it here. Nice thing about cubans is it's actually possible to try them all with a little work. I figure I've tried at least half by now, being pretty new to the world of habanos. Has anyone else here attempted the same thing?

cheers!

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New to CC smoking or of every type would cure my issue with where to start that's for sure. Now if I could just pick the right 6 numbers I could actually do it.

Good luck on your adventure

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CCW shows 189 current production cigars including confirmed but not yet released. Good luck!

Cigar Name Factory Name Size Shape

Vitola de Salida Vitola de Galera Ring x mm Common Name

Belinda Coronas (2) c2005 - Status uncertain Cristales Mano 41 x 150 (5.9") Long Corona

Bolívar Belicosos Finos Pre-1960 - Current Campanas 52 x 140 (5.5") Pyramid

Bolívar Bolívar Tubos No.1 Pre-1960 - Current Coronas 42 x 142 (5.6") Corona

Bolívar Bolívar Tubos No.2 Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Bolívar Bolívar Tubos No.3 Pre-1960 - Current Placeras 34 x 125 (4.9") Small Panetela

Bolívar Coronas Gigantes Pre-1960 - Current Julieta No.2 47 x 178 (7.0") Churchill

Bolívar Coronas Junior Pre-1960 - Current Minutos 42 x 110 (4.3") Petit Corona

Bolívar Petit Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Bolívar Royal Coronas 1973 - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

Cohiba BHK 52 2010 - Current Laguito No.4 52 x 119 (4.7") Petit Robusto - T

Cohiba BHK 54 2010 - Current Laguito No.5 54 x 144 (5.7") Robusto Extra - T

Cohiba BHK 56 2010 - Current Laguito No.6 56 x 166 (6.5") Double Robusto - T

Cohiba Coronas Especiales 1967 - Current Laguito No.2 38 x 152 (6.0") Panetela - T

Cohiba Espléndidos 1989 - Current Julieta No.2 47 x 178 (7.0") Churchill

Cohiba Exquisitos 1989 - Current Seoane 36 x 125 (4.9") Small Panetela

Cohiba Genios 2007 - Current Genios 52 x 140 (5.5") Robusto Extra

Cohiba Lanceros 1964 - Current Laguito No.1 38 x 192 (7.6") Long Panetela - T

Cohiba Magicos 2007 - Current Mágicos 52 x 115 (4.5") Petit Robusto

Cohiba Panetelas 1967 - Current Laguito No.3 26 x 115 (4.5") Small Panetela

Cohiba Piramides Extra 2012 - Current Pirámides Extra 54 x 160 (6.3") Pyramid Extra

Cohiba Robustos 1989 - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

Cohiba Secretos 2007 - Current Secretos 40 x 110 (4.3") Petit Corona

Cohiba Siglo I 1994 - Current Perlas 40 x 102 (4.0") Petit Corona

Cohiba Siglo II 1994 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Cohiba Siglo III 1994 - Current Coronas Grandes 42 x 155 (6.1") Long Corona

Cohiba Siglo IV 1994 - Current Coronas Gordas 46 x 143 (5.6") Grand Corona

Cohiba Siglo V 1994 - Current Dalias 43 x 170 (6.7") Lonsdale

Cohiba Siglo VI 2002 - Current Cañonazo 52 x 150 (5.9") Robusto Extra

Cuaba Diadema 2003 - Current Diademas 55 x 233 (9.2") Giant Perfecto

Cuaba Distinguidos 2003 - Current Romeo 52 x 162 (6.4") Perfecto

Cuaba Divinos 1996 - Current Petit Bouquet 43 x 101 (4.0") Petit Perfecto

Cuaba Exclusivos 1996 - Current Exquisitos 46 x 145 (5.7") Perfecto

Cuaba Generosos 1996 - Current Generosos 42 x 132 (5.2") Perfecto

Cuaba Salomón 2003 - Current Salomón 57 x 184 (7.2") Double Perfecto

Diplomáticos Diplomáticos No.2 1966 - Current Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid

El Rey del Mundo Choix Suprême Pre-1960 - Current Hermosos No.4 48 x 127 (5.0") Corona Extra

El Rey del Mundo Demi Tasse Pre-1960 - Current Entreactos 30 x 100 (3.9") Small Panetela

Fonseca Cosacos Pre-1960 - Current Cosacos 42 x 135 (5.3") Corona

Fonseca Delicias Pre-1960 - Current Standard Mano 40 x 123 (4.8") Petit Corona

Fonseca KDT Cadetes Pre-1960 - Current Cadetes 36 x 115 (4.5") Short Panetela

Guantanamera Compay 2002 - Status uncertain Standard Mano 40 x 123 (4.8") Petit Corona

Guantanamera Cristales 2002 - Current Cristales Mano 41 x 150 (5.9") Long Corona

Guantanamera Décimos 2002 - Current Universales 38 x 134 (5.3") Short Panetela

Guantanamera Minutos 2005 - Current Minutos 42 x 110 (4.3") Petit Corona

Guantanamera Puritos 2002 - Current Chicos 29 x 106 (4.2") Cigarillo

H. Upmann Connoisseur No.1 Pre-1960 - Current Hermosos No.4 48 x 127 (5.0") Corona Extra

H. Upmann Coronas Junior Pre-1960 - Current Cadetes 36 x 115 (4.5") Short Panetela

H. Upmann Coronas Major (2) Pre-1960 - Current Eminentes 42 x 132 (5.2") Corona

H. Upmann Coronas Minor (2) Pre-1960 - Current Coronitas 40 x 117 (4.6") Petit Corona

H. Upmann Epicures Pre-1960 - Current Epicures 35 x 110 (4.3") Short Panetela

H. Upmann Half Corona 2011 - Current Half Corona 44 x 90 (3.5") Petit Corona

H. Upmann Magnum 46 Pre-1960 - Current Coronas Gordas 46 x 143 (5.6") Grand Corona

H. Upmann Magnum 50 2008 - Current Double Robustos 50 x 160 (6.3") Double Robusto

H. Upmann Majestic Pre-1960 - Current Cremas 40 x 140 (5.5") Corona

H. Upmann Petit Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

H. Upmann Regalias Pre-1960 - Current Petit Coronas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

H. Upmann Sir Winston Pre-1960 - Current Julieta No.2 47 x 178 (7.0") Churchill

H. Upmann Upmann No.2 Pre-1960 - Current Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid

Hoyo de Monterrey Coronations Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Hoyo de Monterrey Double Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Prominentes 49 x 194 (7.6") Double Corona

Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure Especial 2008 - Current Gorditos 50 x 141 (5.6") Robusto Extra

Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure No.1 Pre-1960 - Current Coronas Gordas 46 x 143 (5.6") Grand Corona

Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure No.2 Pre-1960 - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo de San Juan confirmed 2014 Geniales 54 x 150 (5.9") Robusto Extra

Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo des Dieux Pre-1960 - Current Coronas Grandes 42 x 155 (6.1") Long Corona

Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo du Depute Pre-1960 - Current Trabucos 38 x 110 (4.3") Short Panetela

Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo du Gourmet Pre-1960 - Current Palmas 33 x 170 (6.7") Slim Panetela

Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo du Maire Pre-1960 - Current Entreactos 30 x 100 (3.9") Small Panetela

Hoyo de Monterrey Le Hoyo du Prince Pre-1960 - Current Almuerzos 40 x 130 (5.1") Corona

Hoyo de Monterrey Palmas Extra Pre-1960 - Current Cremas 40 x 140 (5.5") Corona

Hoyo de Monterrey Petit Robustos 2004 - Current Petit Robustos 50 x 102 (4.0") Petit Robusto

José L. Piedra Brevas 1996 - Current Brevas JLP 42 x 133 (5.2") Corona

José L. Piedra Cazadores 1996 - Current Cazadores JLP 43 x 152 (6.0") Long Corona

José L. Piedra Conservas 1996 - Current Conservas JLP 44 x 140 (5.5") Long Corona

José L. Piedra Cremas 1996 - Current Cremas JLP 40 x 136 (5.4") Corona

José L. Piedra Nacionales 1996 - Current Nacionales JLP 42 x 134 (5.3") Corona

José L. Piedra Petit Cazadores 2007 - Current Petit Cazadores 43 x 105 (4.1") Petit Corona

José L. Piedra Petit Cetros 1996 - Current Petit Cetros JLP 38 x 127 (5.0") Short Panetela

Juan López Petit Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Juan López Selection No.1 1990s - Current Coronas Gordas 46 x 143 (5.6") Grand Corona

Juan López Selection No.2 1990s - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

La Flor de Cano Petit Coronas (2) c2002 - Current Standard 40 x 123 (4.8") Petit Corona

La Flor de Cano Selectos (2) c2002 - Current Cristales 41 x 150 (5.9") Long Corona

La Gloria Cubana Medaille d'Or No.2 Pre-1960 - Current Dalias 43 x 170 (6.7") Lonsdale

La Gloria Cubana Medaille d'Or No.4 Pre-1960 - Current Palmitas 32 x 152 (6.0") Slim Panetela

Montecristo Double Edmundo 2013 - Current Dobles 50 x 155 (6.1") Robusto Extra

Montecristo Eagle 2009 - Current Geniales 54 x 150 (5.9") Robusto Extra

Montecristo Edmundos 2004 - Current Edmundo 52 x 135 (5.3") Robusto

Montecristo Joyitas 1969 - Current Laguito No.3 26 x 115 (4.5") Small Panetela

Montecristo Junior 2009 - Current Trabucos 38 x 110 (4.3") Short Panetela

Montecristo Master 2009 - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

Montecristo Montecristo A 1971 - Current Gran Corona 47 x 235 (9.3") Giant Corona

Montecristo Montecristo Especial No.1 1969 - Current Laguito No.1 38 x 192 (7.6") Long Panetela - T

Montecristo Montecristo Especial No.2 1969 - Current Laguito No.2 38 x 152 (6.0") Panetela - T

Montecristo Montecristo No.1 Pre-1960 - Current Cervantes 42 x 165 (6.5") Lonsdale

Montecristo Montecristo No.2 Pre-1960 - Current Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid

Montecristo Montecristo No.3 Pre-1960 - Current Coronas 42 x 142 (5.6") Corona

Montecristo Montecristo No.4 Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Montecristo Montecristo No.5 Pre-1960 - Current Perlas 40 x 102 (4.0") Petit Corona

Montecristo Montecristo Tubos 1970s - Current Coronas Grandes 42 x 155 (6.1") Long Corona

Montecristo Petit Edmundo 2006 - Current Petit Edmundo 52 x 110 (4.3") Petit Robusto

Montecristo Petit No. 2 2013 - Current Petit No. 2 52 x 120 (4.7") Petit Pyramid

Montecristo Petit Tubos 1980s - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Montecristo Regata 2009 - Current Forum 46 x 135 (5.3") Petit Pyramid

Partagás 8-9-8 (2) mid to late-1970s - Current Dalias 43 x 170 (6.7") Lonsdale

Partagás Aristocrats Pre-1960 - Current Petit Cetros 40 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Partagás Coronas Junior Pre-1960 - Current Coronitas 40 x 117 (4.6") Petit Corona

Partagás Coronas Senior Pre-1960 - Current Eminentes 42 x 132 (5.2") Corona

Partagás Culebras Pre-1960 - Current Culebras 39 x 146 (5.7") Culebra

Partagás Habaneros Pre-1960 - Current Belvederes 39 x 125 (4.9") Short Panetela

Partagás Lusitanias Pre-1960 - Current Prominentes 49 x 194 (7.6") Double Corona

Partagás Mille Fleurs Pre-1960 - Current Petit Coronas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Partagás Partagás de Luxe Pre-1960 - Current Cremas 40 x 140 (5.5") Corona

Partagás Petit Coronas Especiales Pre-1960 - Current Eminentes 42 x 132 (5.2") Corona

Partagás Presidentes Pre-1960 - Current Tacos 47 x 158 (6.2") Perfecto

Partagás Salomones 2008 - Current Salomón 57 x 184 (7.2") Double Perfecto

Partagás Serie D No. 6 confirmed 2014 Unknown 50 x 90 (3.5") Unknown

Partagás Serie D No.4 1975 - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

Partagás Serie D No.5 2011 - Current D No.5 50 x 110 (4.3") Petit Robusto

Partagás Serie E No.2 2011 - Current Duke 54 x 140 (5.5") Robusto Extra

Partagás Serie P No.2 2005 - Current Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid

Partagás Shorts Pre-1960 - Current Minutos 42 x 110 (4.3") Petit Corona

Partagás Super Partagás Pre-1960 - Current Cremas 40 x 140 (5.5") Corona

Por Larrañaga Montecarlos (2) c2002 - Current Deliciosos 33 x 159 (6.3") Slim Panetela

Por Larrañaga Panetelas (2) c2002 - Current Vegueritos 36 x 127 (5.0") Short Panetela

Por Larrañaga Petit Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Por Larrañaga Picadores proposed 2014 Hermosos No.4 48 x 127 (5.0") Corona Extra

Punch Coronations (2) Pre-1960 - Current Petit Coronas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Punch Double Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Prominentes 49 x 194 (7.6") Double Corona

Punch Petit Coronations (2) Pre-1960 - Current Coronitas 40 x 117 (4.6") Petit Corona

Punch Punch Punch Pre-1960 - Current Coronas Gordas 46 x 143 (5.6") Grand Corona

Punch Royal Coronations (2) Pre-1960 - Current Conservas 43 x 145 (5.7") Long Corona

Quai d'Orsay Coronas Claro 1974 - Current Coronas 42 x 142 (5.6") Corona

Quai d'Orsay Imperiales 1974 - Current Julieta No.2 47 x 178 (7.0") Churchill

Quintero Brevas (3) c2002 - Current Nacionales 41 x 140 (5.5") Corona

Quintero Favoritos 2012 - Current Concha No.2 50 x 115 (4.5") Petit Robusto

Quintero Londres Extra Pre-1960 - Current Standard Mano 40 x 123 (4.8") Petit Corona

Quintero Nacionales (2) c2002 - Current Nacionales 41 x 140 (5.5") Corona

Quintero Panetelas (2) c2002 - Current Vegueritos 36 x 127 (5.0") Short Panetela

Quintero Petit Quinteros confirmed 2014 Petit Cazadores 43 x 105 (4.1") Petit Corona

Rafael González Panetelas Extra Pre-1960 - Current Vegueritos 36 x 127 (5.0") Short Panetela

Rafael González Perlas 2012 - Current Perlas 40 x 102 (4.0") Petit Corona

Rafael González Petit Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Ramón Allones Gigantes (2) 1976 - Current Prominentes 49 x 194 (7.6") Double Corona

Ramón Allones Small Club Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Minutos 42 x 110 (4.3") Petit Corona

Ramón Allones Specially Selected 1980 - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

Romeo y Julieta Belicosos Pre-1960 - Current Campanas 52 x 140 (5.5") Pyramid

Romeo y Julieta Belvederes Pre-1960 - Current Belvederes 39 x 125 (4.9") Short Panetela

Romeo y Julieta Cazadores Pre-1960 - Current Cazadores 43 x 162 (6.4") Lonsdale

Romeo y Julieta Cedros de Luxe proposed 2014 Gorditos 50 x 141 (5.6") Robusto Extra

Romeo y Julieta Cedros de Luxe No.1 Pre-1960 - Current Cervantes 42 x 165 (6.5") Lonsdale

Romeo y Julieta Cedros de Luxe No.2 Pre-1960 - Current Coronas 42 x 142 (5.6") Corona

Romeo y Julieta Cedros de Luxe No.3 Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Romeo y Julieta Churchills Pre-1960 - Current Julieta No.2 47 x 178 (7.0") Churchill

Romeo y Julieta Coronitas en Cedro Pre-1960 - Current Petit Cetros 40 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Romeo y Julieta Exhibicion No.3 mid-1980s - Current Coronas Gordas 46 x 143 (5.6") Grand Corona

Romeo y Julieta Exhibicion No.4 mid-1980s - Current Hermosos No.4 48 x 127 (5.0") Corona Extra

Romeo y Julieta Julieta 2010 - Current Julieta No.6 33 x 120 (4.7") Small Panetela

Romeo y Julieta Mille Fleurs Pre-1960 - Current Petit Coronas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Romeo y Julieta Petit Churchills 2012 - Current Petit Robustos 50 x 102 (4.0") Petit Robusto

Romeo y Julieta Petit Coronas Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Romeo y Julieta Petit Julietas Pre-1960 - Current Entreactos 30 x 100 (3.9") Small Panetela

Romeo y Julieta Regalías de Londres Pre-1960 - Current Coronitas 40 x 117 (4.6") Petit Corona

Romeo y Julieta Romeo No.1 Pre-1960 - Current Cremas 40 x 140 (5.5") Corona

Romeo y Julieta Romeo No.2 Pre-1960 - Current Petit Coronas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Romeo y Julieta Romeo No.3 Pre-1960 - Current Coronitas 40 x 117 (4.6") Petit Corona

Romeo y Julieta Short Churchills 2006 - Current Robustos 50 x 124 (4.9") Robusto

Romeo y Julieta Sports Largos Pre-1960 - Current Sports 35 x 117 (4.6") Short Panetela

Romeo y Julieta Wide Churchills 2010 - Current Montesco 55 x 130 (5.1") Robusto

Saint Luis Rey Double Coronas 2001 - Current Prominentes 49 x 194 (7.6") Double Corona

Saint Luis Rey Regios Pre-1960 - Current Hermosos No.4 48 x 127 (5.0") Corona Extra

Saint Luis Rey Serie A Pre-1960 - Current Coronas Gordas 46 x 143 (5.6") Grand Corona

San Cristóbal El Morro 1999 - Current Pacos 49 x 180 (7.1") Double Corona

San Cristóbal El Príncipe 1999 - Current Minutos 42 x 110 (4.3") Petit Corona

San Cristóbal La Fuerza 1999 - Current Gorditos 50 x 141 (5.6") Robusto Extra

San Cristóbal La Punta 1999 - Current Campanas 52 x 140 (5.5") Pyramid

Sancho Panza Belicosos Pre-1960 - Current Campanas 52 x 140 (5.5") Pyramid

Sancho Panza Non Plus Pre-1960 - Current Marevas 42 x 129 (5.1") Petit Corona

Trinidad Coloniales (2) 2004 - Current Coloniales 44 x 132 (5.2") Corona - T

Trinidad Fundadores 1997 - Current Laguito Especial 40 x 192 (7.6") Lonsdale - T

Trinidad Reyes 2004 - Current Reyes 40 x 110 (4.3") Petit Corona - T

Trinidad Vigia confirmed 2014 Torres 54 x 110 (4.3") Petit Robusto

Troya Coronas Club (2) 2005 - Current Universales 38 x 134 (5.3") Short Panetela

Vegas Robaina Don Alejandro 1997 - Current Prominentes 49 x 194 (7.6") Double Corona

Vegas Robaina Famosos 1997 - Current Hermosos No.4 48 x 127 (5.0") Corona Extra

Vegas Robaina Unicos 1997 - Current Pirámides 52 x 156 (6.1") Pyramid

Vegueros Entretiempos confirmed 2013 Petit Edmundo 52 x 110 (4.3") Petit Robusto

Vegueros Mañanitas confirmed 2013 Unknown 46 x 110 (4.3") Petit Pyramid

Vegueros Tapados confirmed 2013 Unknown 46 x 120 (4.7") Unknown

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Actually, based on Habana Mike's helpful post, I found how to do it on http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/

Here's the link if anyone else wants to see it on the site.

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/list.aspx?&specialtype=Current_Production;&includeimages=False&sortorder=noorder

Should be pretty doable to smoke them all at least once. Although it might get expensive with the Cohibas and for some reason Punch is hard to find in my neck of the woods.

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Quick run through of the spreadsheet and it looks like I've smoked over 140 of these in my career, looks like a few left to go.

Most of the Vergueros, Quinteros, Piedras, Guantanameras are lacking along with a handful of HU, R&J, Partagas, and Monte, mostly smaller formats/machine made.

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Looks like I'm at 77 current production cigars so far - not bad for less than a year of enjoying Cubans! I think I'm a classic example of getting over-eager when finding a new hobby.

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I'm around 80

Not too bad considering I only just started smoking CC's again after a couple years on the NC train.

Speaking of NC's, if you were curious how many different cigars there are in the Non Cuban market that are regular production, the number would be closer to 30,000

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Habana Mike,

After going through that list (and comparing it to the one I keep - I had 187 with machine mades) I notice that you included two of the LCDH releases (Partagas Salomones and Culebras) as part of current production. I know that LCDH releases are supposed to be limited but it doesn't appear that these are. Can you explain to me what the story is on these two?

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Habana Mike,

After going through that list (and comparing it to the one I keep - I had 187 with machine mades) I notice that you included two of the LCDH releases (Partagas Salomones and Culebras) as part of current production. I know that LCDH releases are supposed to be limited but it doesn't appear that these are. Can you explain to me what the story is on these two?

Good question. These were the results I got when I queried the CCW database for all current production, just cut & pasted.

From the notes:

Culebra : The handmade 2007 are marketed as a La Casa del Habano exclusive, but appear to be freely available worldwide.

Salamones: Standard band B, with a La Casa del Habana band.

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Wow,I counted 122 on that list that I've smoked.The sad thing is the list of deletions in the past ten years is probably larger than the current production list.

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Wow,I counted 122 on that list that I've smoked.The sad thing is the list of deletions in the past ten years is probably larger than the current production list.

Yeah, if I were to go through all the different discontinueds my count would probably double. Then add the LE, RE, LCDH, and others.....too many to imagine! Don't even want to think about the ROW cigars.....

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Yeah, if I were to go through all the different discontinueds my count would probably double. Then add the LE, RE, LCDH, and others.....too many to imagine! Don't even want to think about the ROW cigars.....

What are ROW cigars?

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Maybe if alex (atgroom) sees this, he can query the cubancigarwebsite database and tell us. wink.png

Looks like you guys figured it out before I got there! For what it's worth, CCW lists 189 current cigars, 503 discontinued, and 577 special release.

Habana Mike,

After going through that list (and comparing it to the one I keep - I had 187 with machine mades) I notice that you included two of the LCDH releases (Partagas Salomones and Culebras) as part of current production. I know that LCDH releases are supposed to be limited but it doesn't appear that these are. Can you explain to me what the story is on these two?

As much as we try to keep it up to date and accurate, CCW is still just a website maintained by a couple of guys with no formal links to the cigar industry. Sometimes we make mistakes, and sometimes Cuba does something a bit weird and we have to make a judgement call (as Mike indicated in his response on the Culebras). For what it's worth, I'd say that the 189 probably also contains a few cigars that are officially or unofficially discontinued and the news hasn't filtered through to us yet. Likewise, there are a few cigars that are officially discontinued but still seem to show up in new production from time to time.

LCDH releases have become a lot more limited in the last few years, so moving the two cigars you mention into special release is probably warranted.

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Hm, with a first look on the list... I thought, the following are officially discontinued, aren't they?

Diplomáticos Diplomáticos No.2
Juan López Petit Coronas
Partagás Culebras
Saint Luis Rey Double Coronas
Saint Luis Rey Serie A
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Ok, I had the information from some German Casas, like LCDH Hamburg:

http://www.thecigarsmoker.com/blog/?p=432

Not a reliable source of information at all - they also spread the false rumor of the total discontinuation of Trinidad a while back.

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