La Gloria Cubana

[RagingPorkBun]

I'm relatively inexperienced in CCs, to be honest. I mostly smoke NCs and I'm relatively experienced there. Have only smoked the RASS and Partagas Serie D4. One of my friends keeps talking about his CC LGCs. Most reputable CC websites either haven't had anything in stock for years or they're available for a few days before being snatched up.

Are LGCs discontinued or is production just really slow?

[Maplepie]

Great LGCs have all been discontinued. If you ever stumble upon some LGC No. 1s, take them.

Anyways, if you're inexperienced towards Cubans, i personally think you'll be blown away by them. Not because they're relatively (towards the RASS and PSD4) better. But moreso because they're different. The profile will leave you confused because you probably haven't smoked something like this before.

They aren't as much discontinued, but rare. No B&M i've seen in Toronto has had a single La Gloria Cubana in stock, which is a shame (other than the LCDH, i think). Take your pick of the No.2 or the No.4 and see what you like. Them perhaps move onto ERdM as they're relativistically similar to the LGC profile.

Also, note: they're all skinny sticks compared to what else you've probably had. So don't do full cheek inflations. Rather, sip it like your first time drinking a good gin. If you take mouthfuls, it'll burn your mouth and you may walk away saying: **** this. Don't let that happen with such fine regular production cigars like La Gloria Cubanas!

You mentioned that you're inexperienced towards Cuban Cigars. But are you experienced towards the non-Cuban spectrum?

[Maplepie]

Reflecting on this topic after posting, I suggest you try out the ERdM Choix Supreme prior to indulging in the LGC selection.

If you enjoy the ERdM Choix Supreme, i'd wager a decent bit and say you'd enjoy the LGCs, too. Plus, the ERdMs are more common!

[PartagasIV]

There is 2013 MUR production MdO#2 and #4 boxes still somewhat available. The #2's are astonishingly good.

My personal favorite is the 2002 #3. Can't have too many.

[Maplepie]

There is 2013 MUR production MdO#2 and #4 boxes still somewhat available. The #2's are astonishingly good.

will back up the MUR and say that the 2013 No.4 is exquisite.

MUR is normally always a good code

[RagingPorkBun]

To maplepie: I've only smoked a few CCs over the past 2 years to be honest, but would love to expand into it. As for NCs, I've been exploring into almost everything for the past 4 years. I'm leaning more into coronas, lanceros, and robustos. Big fan of Davidoff, AJ Fernandez, Padron, Oliva, and Christian Eiroa (original creator of Camacho).

I'll definitely keep an eye out for any CC LGCs though. Been itching to try them with all the hype I keep hearing.

[Smallclub]

Them perhaps move onto ERdM as they're relativistically similar to the LGC profile.

The No1, 3 and 4 have nothing in common with anything ERDM. To begin with, LGC has a Partagas heritage…

[RagingPorkBun]

 

There is 2013 MUR production MdO#2 and #4 boxes still somewhat available. The #2's are astonishingly good.

My personal favorite is the 2002 #3. Can't have too many.

  Will definitely keep my eyes open. Where do you find this though? Couldn't find it in *****INT.

[Maplepie]

I'm leaning more into coronas, lanceros, and robustos. Big fan of Davidoff, AJ Fernandez, Padron, Oliva

good! You should like those LGCs, then

If you've smoked the NC Davidoff's Mille 1000 and liked it, these LGCs should be a real treat for you!

[Maplepie]

The No1, 3 and 4 have nothing in commun with anything ERDM.

profile? can you say that with absolute certainty that they're not in the same spoke of the wheelhouse? they both have a little 'Gin' infusion in their profiles: kinda florally and mildly pleasant like a spread out lea (which is normally how i describe them to people who've smoked only Cohibas and Montecristos in their entire lives)

I find certain parts of young LGC No.4s and 2s will taste like ERdM DTs.

Edit: After a small contemplation, the Vegueros are more like the LGCs than ERdM... But i still stand by my original statement that they're neighbours in the wheelhouse.

[Smallclub]

profile? can you say that with absolute certainty that they're not in the same spoke of the wheelhouse?

The ERDM in similar sizes (Grandes de Espana, Panatelas Largas, Elegantes) were at the opposite (almost) end of the spectrum. No spices, no flower.

[Lant63]

I have to agree with Smallclub. I find them nowhere close to each other. I think ERDM are horrid, they just do not agree with me. Very vegetal and not what I look for in a cigar ever. As for LGC I really enjoy all of them especially the 4.

[Maplepie]

The ERDM in similar sizes (Grandes de Espana, Panatelas Largas, Elegantes) were at the opposite (almost) end of the spectrum. No spices, no flower.

in the end, they are similar to me. a good 3YO CS has almost been identical to an Inmensos in my books.

however, I've never asked this comparison to other people, before. perhaps i should reconsider my stance regarding the proximity of ERdMs and LGCs. i've never smoked them back to back before, either... i'll yield and revisit after trying some of the LGC 1s and 3s and ERdM regionals

I think ERDM are horrid, they just do not agree with me. Very vegetal and not what I look for in a cigar ever. As for LGC I really enjoy all of them especially the 4.

Hmmmmmmm... have you tried the regionals (Elegantes, Balthasars, Choix de l'Epoque) and older ones that SmallClub mentioned as well? i originally hated the ERdM because of young Demi Tasse and Choix Supremes i've had. But the regional selections abroad (coupled with some vintage stuff i received) really changed my mind. they're practically one of my favourite marcas now!

[tmac77]

The LGC M d'O #2 and 4 are still being produced in cuba and can be found relatively easily. the LCDH LGC inmensos release are also still around and are also very good. My favorite LGC's were the now discontinued Md'O #1 and the Tainos. Fortunately I still have a few boxes of these left. There are a few regionals out there still to be had with the exception of the LGC RE cuba Jar which is extremely scarce and none left in Cuba. I am looking forward to the LGC 2014 - Edición Regional Caribe and will likely go deep on them.

[RagingPorkBun]

 

The LGC M d'O #2 and 4 are still being produced in cuba and can be found relatively easily.

Would you be kind enough to let me know through post or pm where I might find these? *****INT doesn't even list the LGC brand anymore.

[Smallclub]

*****INT doesn't even list the LGC brand anymore.

Yes but occasionaly Rob offers a handful of boxes through the LFTH event.

[tmac77]

  Would you be kind enough to let me know through post or pm where I might find these? *****INT doesn't even list the LGC brand anymore.

You can find the #4's and Inmensos fairly easily in Cuba. THe #2's are a bit more hard to come by but are around. Saw a couple of boxes in Varadero a month ago.

[mk05]

Smoke some Bolivars and see if you like those first, before you go hunting.

[Rye]

LGC are a great cigar, with exception to the Inmensos. I got rid of my remaining boxes and find the Vegas Robaina Marshall has 10X the LGC profile. Recent stock no.2's and 4's are only just barely showing any floral notes yet, but everything else is there, and they are getting better quickly.

X2 o. The 02 no.3's. I love those

[RagingPorkBun]

Thanks to all that replied or pm'd me. I think I've found my next box purchase. That or H. Upmann Magnum 46.

[daeji5]

I am also very interested in where I can source some lgc's, if anyone doesn't mind pm-ing me. Everyone I've spoken to speaks praises about the taste profile, but I've looked everywhere and they're all out of stock. I don't understand how people keep posting up pictures of their recent lgc purchases. It's like they're taunting me. so sad.

[Habana Mike]

LGC are a great cigar, with exception to the Inmensos. I got rid of my remaining boxes and find the Vegas Robaina Marshall has 10X the LGC profile. Recent stock no.2's and 4's are only just barely showing any floral notes yet, but everything else is there, and they are getting better quickly.

X2 o. The 02 no.3's. I love those

Funny you say that since the Marshall was originally slated to be an LGC!

In 2008, the official Habanos S.A. “Proposed Regional Editions” list was released. At that time, the list contained a release called the “La Gloria Cubana Marshal” which was a robusto, and was to be distributed by Camelot, which serves Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, and Bosnia.

Well, as time went by, it became obvious that the La Gloria Cubana Marshal was going to be another one of the oft delayed Cuban regionals as no one heard anything about the release date. However, there were prerelease samples of the the La Gloria Cubana cigar with the “Exclusivo Adriático” second band on them that were given out and smoked.

It was later learned that because of trade mark issues, i.e. Swedish Match registered La Gloria Cubana in Croatia and other regions long before Habanos S.A. ever did, and they would not relent to letting Habanos use the name without paying quite a bit of money, the La Gloria Cubana cigars had to be re-branded as Vegas Robaina before their release to avoid litigation issues.

As you can imagine, this caused all sorts of problems. Apparently, the boxes for the cigar were already produced and prerelease samples of the La Gloria had already been sent out. No one that I have talked to knows with any certainty if the cigars for this release were rolled before the Trademark issues were realized or after. If they were rolled before, it would be hard to believe that Habanos S.A. would destroy the entire stock of rolled cigars, so that would indicate they are a rebounded La Gloria blend. If rolled after, who knows what they are.

Instead of destroying the original La Gloria boxes that had already been produced before the copyright issues came to light, Habanos S.A. decided to just put a silver plate with the Vegas Robaina info on top of the La Gloria stamping into the box and on top of the banner on the top right corner as well.

Interesting story, wish I had a few - boxes or singles

* courtesy of http://halfwheel.com/vegas-robaina-marshal-re-adriatico-2008/9702

[Maplepie]

Funny you say that since the Marshall was originally slated to be an LGC!

Interesting story, wish I had a few - boxes or singles

* courtesy of http://halfwheel.com/vegas-robaina-marshal-re-adriatico-2008/9702

oh please. like he wouldn't know that.... don't worry, we all salute your modesty

Mike, when you get a few boxes, make sure not to remove it. This isn't as pretty

[Rye]

Funny you say that since the Marshall was originally slated to be an LGC!

I love that story, but it tempts me to pick the badge off the top of my box which I'm not really willing to do.

The Marshal tastes very much like the Delisiosos, but the Marshal does seem to have aged better, likely due to the jar slowing aging. There is some evidence of what looks like band removal damage on a couple in the Marshal boxes and a friend of mine did reveal the LGC logo under the VR one.

No doubt in my mind that they are LGC blend. Thanks for posting the story, I love reading it!!

[garbandz]

You may have more luck sourcing regional LGCs,they seem to be more available.

This may have something to do with the prices,somewhat costly.

Facinating that the Cuban regional stick is a La Gloria...........